New York Yankees

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Where did this cocky overconfident Yankee fan go? I havent seen him post in awhile on this thread!

Hello!

Well, that sucked!

It was more painful to lose this year than last, to be honest. I really liked this team. Yes, it was imperfect, flawed and had many question marks, but the mix of youth and veterans was an exciting one (one that produced by far the best record in baseball from May 30 to the end of the year). A-Rod had a monster year (say what you will, but he was not the reason the team lost - Wang was horrible, Jeter had his worst postseason ever, and Matsui and Posada didn't help much, either). The young pitchers were fun (Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, some guy named Joba - maybe you've heard of him?). Posada's great offensive year (one of the best for a catcher of his age ever). Kei Igawa (LOL). Petitte being the man, once again, in the playoffs. The bounce back from 21-29 was very exciting to watch, so, to see the team fall apart this postseason in a VERY winable series was tough.

That midges thing in Game 2 was absurd, and MLB should have halted the game. Anyway, why Torre and Guidry didn't at least take a million trips to the mound to calm Joba down, I'll never know. Otherwise, tough to fault anything. I would have gone with Wang in Game 4....You have to go with the "ace" (and Wang, for better or worse, was the team's ace), and the team should have KILLED Byrd. How to start Moose when another old guy, Clemens, fell apart the night before? And Wang is decidedly better in NY than on the road.

Wasn't meant to be.

It's painful to say, but the Sox have no excuse not to win it all now that the best team is out of the playoffs (I'm not talking about the Cubs, Phillies or Angels, mind you). Enjoy the pressure, Sox fans. No one will feel sorry for you if you lose.

 

[tree_skier]

Hello!


It's painful to say, but the Sox have no excuse not to win it all now that the best team is out of the playoffs (I'm not talking about the Cubs, Phillies or Angels, mind you). Enjoy the pressure, Sox fans. No one will feel sorry for you if you lose.

Well you fans of Next Year certainly are a little delusional. The best team in baseball out of the playoffs????? Lets see in the AL the number 1 and 2 seeds are still in and they also tied for the best record in baseball and in the NL you have the team with the best record vs a team that is 17-1 since sept 15 and had the second best record. So you can see how your statement is a little confusing.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Hello!

Well, that sucked!

It was more painful to lose this year than last, to be honest. I really liked this team. Yes, it was imperfect, flawed and had many question marks, but the mix of youth and veterans was an exciting one (one that produced by far the best record in baseball from May 30 to the end of the year). A-Rod had a monster year (say what you will, but he was not the reason the team lost - Wang was horrible, Jeter had his worst postseason ever, and Matsui and Posada didn't help much, either). The young pitchers were fun (Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, some guy named Joba - maybe you've heard of him?). Posada's great offensive year (one of the best for a catcher of his age ever). Kei Igawa (LOL). Petitte being the man, once again, in the playoffs. The bounce back from 21-29 was very exciting to watch, so, to see the team fall apart this postseason in a VERY winable series was tough.

That midges thing in Game 2 was absurd, and MLB should have halted the game. Anyway, why Torre and Guidry didn't at least take a million trips to the mound to calm Joba down, I'll never know. Otherwise, tough to fault anything. I would have gone with Wang in Game 4....You have to go with the "ace" (and Wang, for better or worse, was the team's ace), and the team should have KILLED Byrd. How to start Moose when another old guy, Clemens, fell apart the night before? And Wang is decidedly better in NY than on the road.

Wasn't meant to be.

It's painful to say, but the Sox have no excuse not to win it all now that the best team is out of the playoffs (I'm not talking about the Cubs, Phillies or Angels, mind you). Enjoy the pressure, Sox fans. No one will feel sorry for you if you lose.

No reason to stop a game because of bugs, these are not little kids out there they are grown men deal with it, its not like they are playing in the snow and mud like men from the gridiron. And as far as the bugs and Joba, ummm last time i checked the guy batting 60 feet away had bugs all over him too, its not like it was unfair and all the bugs were just on the mound. And cmon the yankees were not the best team in the postseason they were just the best team record wise since may 30th that barely until the last 2 weeks made it into the postseason.. Its over for them, in a big way, id like to see Mo and Posada go to Queens that would be great.. They said they wouldnt persue arod if he opts out, BS they will come calling in January and throw money at him, trust me they will go back on their word on that one, and with Mo telling him they wont negotiate til now when he wanted to during the year, not a good way to treat the best closer ever in baseball, they are gonna lose some valuable parts including the manager who kept all the egos down. The yankees probably will make the playoffs again next year, but with no chemistry and too many new faces it will probably end up just like this year.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

No reason to stop a game because of bugs, these are not little kids out there they are grown men deal with it, its not like they are playing in the snow and mud like men from the gridiron. And as far as the bugs and Joba, ummm last time i checked the guy batting 60 feet away had bugs all over him too, its not like it was unfair and all the bugs were just on the mound. And cmon the yankees were not the best team in the postseason they were just the best team record wise since may 30th that barely until the last 2 weeks made it into the postseason.. Its over for them, in a big way, id like to see Mo and Posada go to Queens that would be great.. They said they wouldnt persue arod if he opts out, BS they will come calling in January and throw money at him, trust me they will go back on their word on that one, and with Mo telling him they wont negotiate til now when he wanted to during the year, not a good way to treat the best closer ever in baseball, they are gonna lose some valuable parts including the manager who kept all the egos down. The yankees probably will make the playoffs again next year, but with no chemistry and too many new faces it will probably end up just like this year.

That's a lot of negativity! And typical of Red Sox Nation.

I am hopeful for next year. I think the following deals concerning the existing roster will get made, despite all the hype concerning players going elsewhere (in order of priority):

• A-Rod gets extended for an additional 7 years, $210,000,013 (for the extra 7 years)
• Mo for 2 years, $24 million
• Posada for 2 years, $26 million
• Petitte exercises his player option, $16 million (who could resist being the hero for that kind of cash) or he negotiates a new deal for 2 years, $28 million
• Yankees exercise option on Abreu, $16 million (vs. $2 million buy out)

Jeter, A-Rod, Posada and Mo will definitely be around for the new stadium, and they will help hoist the Yankees' 27th World Championship banner from the 2008 season!



Also, I hope Girardi is brought in to shake things up and to continue the youth movement. Torre was a controversial call in 96, so I think there's history for that. I'm less excited for Donnie or La Russa, but they're probably more likely.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

That's a lot of negativity! And typical of Red Sox Nation.

I am hopeful for next year. I think the following deals concerning the existing roster will get made, despite all the hype concerning players going elsewhere (in order of priority):

• A-Rod gets extended for an additional 7 years, $210,000,013 (for the extra 7 years)
• Mo for 2 years, $24 million
• Posada for 2 years, $26 million
• Petitte exercises his player option, $16 million (who could resist being the hero for that kind of cash) or he negotiates a new deal for 2 years, $28 million
• Yankees exercise option on Abreu, $16 million (vs. $2 million buy out)

Jeter, A-Rod, Posada and Mo will definitely be around for the new stadium, and they will help hoist the Yankees' 27th World Championship banner from the 2008 season!



Also, I hope Girardi is brought in to shake things up and to continue the youth movement. Torre was a controversial call in 96, so I think there's history for that. I'm less excited for Donnie or La Russa, but they're probably more likely.

I wasnt being negative, im just saying. LaRussa forget it, with his 2 DWI problems last year, one being asleep at the wheel in the intersection during spring training he will be eaten alive by the Press here in NY, St Louis may be a good baseball town but they let him get away with everything, he will; hate it here. Torre a contorversial call ya id think so the Post said Say it aint so Joe on the backpage the day Torre got hired. I dont know who the Yanks would bring in, mattingly is not ready, Girardi i guess.. What about Buck Showalter? Hell just bring Lou back.

 

[tree_skier]

The curse of Mattingly, The yankees will never win the world series as long as he is on the bench.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

The curse of Mattingly, The yankees will never win the world series as long as he is on the bench.

lol thats good stuff right there.. Funny though he is still the most beloved Yankee even ahead of Torre and Jeter in my opinion

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

The curse of Mattingly, The yankees will never win the world series as long as he is on the bench.

I think if you said "the curse of Giambi" you might be closer to the truth.

Management's willingness to turn a blind eye to his obvious doping, and to reward such a one-dimensional player with such a ridiculous contract in the interest of "win at any cost", has temporarily cursed the world's greatest sports franchise.

The only thing standing between World Championship No. 27 and the Yankees next year is Giambi's final year with the club.

 

[jack97]

• A-Rod gets extended for an additional 7 years, $210,000,013 (for the extra 7 years)
• Mo for 2 years, $24 million
• Posada for 2 years, $26 million
• Petitte exercises his player option, $16 million (who could resist being the hero for that kind of cash) or he negotiates a new deal for 2 years, $28 million
• Yankees exercise option on Abreu, $16 million (vs. $2 million buy out)

This along with only of couple of top tier revenue generating teams can only compete year and year out has made me lose interest in the sport. I think the dice K signing by the bosox sent me over. It was a brilliant strategy to get him but something doesn't seem right. I read somewhere that Steinbrener paid over a billion dollars in the past 12 years to contend for a world series. Mind boggling.

 

[tjf67]

A-Rod gets extended for an additional 7 years, $210,000,013 (for the extra 7 years)
Mo for 2 years, $24 million
Posada for 2 years, $26 million
Petitte exercises his player option, $16 million (who could resist being the hero for that kind of cash) or he negotiates a new deal for 2 years, $28 million
Yankees exercise option on Abreu, $16 million (vs. $2 million buy out)

I say drop Mo. Sign Posada, Drop Pettite and keep abreu. Give the young guns some money and bring in willie to run the crew.

Oh if we can keep a-rod do it at all cost. 30 years from now it could be the housee that arod built.

 

[JimG.]

Everyone loves the Yankees.

Do you realize there are more posts in this thread than in the official Red Sox playoff thread since the Yanks were eliminated? It's like Killington...everyone loves to hate it but they can't stop talking about it.

Admit it Red Sox fans, you are lost without the Yanks. They bring out the best in your club.

 

[2knees]

Admit it Red Sox fans, you are lost without the Yanks. They bring out the best in your club.

hardly jim. this is the first time i've read this thread in a long time. I couldnt care less what happens to the yankees now or what happened to them last week.

not all red sox fans fixate on the yankees.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

hardly jim. this is the first time i've read this thread in a long time. I couldnt care less what happens to the yankees now or what happened to them last week.

not all red sox fans fixate on the yankees.

LOL. I think you just proved Jim's point.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Everyone loves the Yankees.

Do you realize there are more posts in this thread than in the official Red Sox playoff thread since the Yanks were eliminated? It's like Killington...everyone loves to hate it but they can't stop talking about it.

Admit it Red Sox fans, you are lost without the Yanks. They bring out the best in your club.

Jim theres been nothing to talk about for a week, the redsox swept and still dont play til tomorrow, of course the Yankee thread has more hits, this is a team that has spent 1.4 billion on payroll over the last 7yrs and hasnt won a worldseries and hasnt made it out of the 1st round in 3yrs, this is news.. There is no turmoil on the redsox, i know who will be hitting #3 in mylineup next year, i know who will be closing games and i know who my manager will be.. Just wait til Torre goes this thread will really take off!

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

1.4 billion on payroll over the last 7yrs

This again?

Why do Red Sox fans constantly quote dollar figures? You guys spend way too much money, too. So far the only team that "bought" a World Series Championship in the 21st century is the Sox! The 2004 team has the highest payroll for a World Series winning team ever.

:smash:

As far as the AL East goes, only the Devil Rays (and maybe Blue Jays) fans have something to complain about.

The Yankees generate so much discussion because people are naturally drawn to, or repulsed by, greatness. ;-)

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

This again?

Why do Red Sox fans constantly quote dollar figures? You guys spend way too much money, too. So far the only team that "bought" a World Series Championship in the 21st century is the Sox! The 2004 team has the highest payroll for a World Series winning team ever.

:smash:

As far as the AL East goes, only the Devil Rays (and maybe Blue Jays) fans have something to complain about.

The Yankees generate so much discussion because people are naturally drawn to, or repulsed by, greatness. ;-)

I only bring up payroll because it annoys people like you.. Your right that 04 team was way up there in payroll but lets be honest if you won a world series once in the last 7yrs you would be the highest paid world series team ever. Not my fault you cant close the deal.

 

[2knees]

anyone hear that boras is reportedly going to seek an 11 year deal for arod? They were talking about that on the FAN the other day. I think that would make him 43 at the end of the contract.


now back to your regularly scheduled quabbling. :wink:

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Someone brought up something on the Wfan that made alot of sense if A-rod ever wanted to be the toast of the town, he could say ill sign right now and even give you a discount 10yrs for 30million a year IF you bring back Torre with a 3year deal, of course he would never do that but he would win everyone over if he did.

 

[Mike P.]

If it has not been done yet, there is a press conference scheduled for this after noon where John S. will step down as GM of the Braves. Maybe joe's not the only guy to woory about his job in the Bronx. While the Braves haven't been a team run on the cheap, getting the Yankee payroll with his ability may be interesting.

Abreau back? I don't think so, I'd move him & look at Hunter & move Melky over unless theres another big right fielder available. Sounds like you need to keep Joe to keep your closer & Andy P., possibly Posada too. Posada like Varitek in Boston are the key guys. Yanks either need pitching or the kids need to make the jump. They took some steps, they need more or you need to package a couple of them. From what I've seen Hughes the only starter i'd make untouchable. (Joba on the fast track for Mo's job if he leaves, learns more & in a couple of years replaces him)

Busier, you bet, ever listen to EEI? the bad thing they can talk about is the Bruins & hockey right now is so irrelvant (how much has been on the Fan either & the Knicks are only in the news because of Thomas' mouth) you can't complaim about a sport nobody watches.

 

[tree_skier]

I only bring up payroll because it annoys people like you.. Your right that 04 team was way up there in payroll but lets be honest if you won a world series once in the last 7yrs you would be the highest paid world series team ever. Not my fault you cant close the deal.

Another way to annoy them is use the S word, Steriods. Living in south central Vermont I have more then a few yankee fans around and all you have to do is mention steriods, yankees and makes you wonder and they fly off in a huge fit.