Newly tuned skis are killing me!

[rtibbs4]

Any feedback appreciated.

I had my skis tuned recently. I won't say where. It's the first time since buying them. I have had them 4 years and have only been averaging 10-12 days a year. I have had skis sharpened a number of times in the past and the only result was better edge grip on hard pack. These newly tuned skis are a nightmare. I'm catching edges everywhere! Really busted my ass the other day.

Is is possible to screw up a ski tuning?

 

[bobbutts]

You may need to dull the tips and tails..

 

[gmcunni]

Is is possible to screw up a ski tuning?

i think YES. i had a very bad tune experience but the opposite problem as you. i think they went with too severe of a bevel and i could not get the edges to grab at all.

 

[RootDKJ]

It happened to me once also. I went back to the shop where I got a refund, no problem.

 

[andyzee]

You may need to dull the tips and tails..

Agreed.

 

[Puck it]

Try a stone and dull the tip and tails. Dull them about 6 inches in front of binding to tip. And 3 inches behind binding to tail. If you need to dull more then use a mill bastard file.

 

[maineskier69]

I keep a small diamond stone on me for de-burring and de-tuning tips and tails when this happens. Mention it to the shop ASAP and I am sure other members would like to know where it was done, but thats a tough call as you dont want to hurt a (usually?) good shop's reputation unless they don't make good on the problem.

 

[Warp Daddy]

Try a stone and dull the tip and tails. Dull them about 6 inches in front of binding to tip. And 3 inches behind binding to tail. If you need to dull more then use a mill bastard file.

THIS !!! especially if they are 'hooking up"

 

[rtibbs4]

I keep a small diamond stone on me for de-burring and de-tuning tips and tails when this happens.

This is what I feel needs to be done but I don't want to screw them up even more. The skis feel like they have grown claws. I hate taking stuff back to a store but it's probably the best move.

Great input fellas.

Thanks.

 

[thetrailboss]

You may need to dull the tips and tails..

+ 1. You are hooking because they forgot to detune the tips and tails. Take a file and "dull" them or if you have a gummi stone that will do the trick.

 

[rtibbs4]

+ 1. You are hooking because they forgot to detune the tips and tails. Take a file and "dull" them or if you have a gummi stone that will do the trick

Thanks.

 

[thetrailboss]

Thanks.

...or you can take them back to the shop and ask them to detune the tips and tails. I imagine if you are assertive they will refund the tune. That is a mistake that happens when the tuner is rushing and not paying attention. It is something easily fixed but dangerous as you can see.

 

[RISkier]

You can get really bad tunes. I had skis tuned at a nameless shop last year, they were virtually unskiable even on flat green groomed terrain. Went into the resort shop, they young tech checked out the edges and they were completely rounded off. He wasn't sure they could even be saved. A friend recommended going to SkiMD (Mike de Santis in Framingham, MA). The friend is a ski instructor who said Mike could either fix them or tell me they were not repairable. He got them skiing great. Might just be that you need the tips and tails de-tuned a bit. Or... There's a place in Stowe we've gotten really good tunes. But Not all tunes are equal and at this point I'm pretty cautious about who I let touch my skis.

 

[roark]

also may have given you a lower base bevel, besides not detuning (which I actually don't mind

 

[mister moose]

Try a stone and dull the tip and tails. Dull them about 6 inches in front of binding to tip. And 3 inches behind binding to tail. If you need to dull more then use a mill bastard file.

WHAT?

This is way too aggressive and approach. I would never use a file to dull edges with. A light touch with a mild stone is all you need. I would start detuning 6 inches from the tip and tail of the ski outward, and try a few runs. If the skis are still grabby, run the stone over gradually longer sections still using alight touch until the skis perform the way you like. It is easy to dull an edge, hard to get it back. Using a file can dull the edge to the point that another tune cannot restore the edge. If you are not experienced at tuning skis, go easy.

 

[Morwax]

4 years without a tune and your hooking edges. Sounds like you just need to get used to it. They might have done a base grind.
Why anyone would detune their edges is beyond me.

 

[skidmarks]

If you had them stone ground make sure the base pattern isn't too aggressive and make sure the pattern doesn't continue into the base edge.This can make the skis very grabby.

You should not need to dull the skis if the edges were finished with diamond stones by hand or a ceramic edger. If they just used a wet belt all bets are off.

 

[maineskier69]

A good tuner will de-tune tips and tails as SOP. How far up and down depends on the ski and does not require a grinder to do so. A light run with a fine file or diamond stone is all it takes to make the difference.

 

[Puck it]

WHAT?

This is way too aggressive and approach. I would never use a file to dull edges with. A light touch with a mild stone is all you need. I would start detuning 6 inches from the tip and tail of the ski outward, and try a few runs. If the skis are still grabby, run the stone over gradually longer sections still using alight touch until the skis perform the way you like. It is easy to dull an edge, hard to get it back. Using a file can dull the edge to the point that another tune cannot restore the edge. If you are not experienced at tuning skis, go easy.

You knock them down a little. The edges can be recovered too. Do you tune your own?

 

[Puck it]

A good tuner will de-tune tips and tails as SOP. How far up and down depends on the ski and does not require a grinder to do so. A light run with a fine file or diamond stone is all it takes to make the difference.

Obviously you know what you are doing.