Northeast trails I HATE

[Zand]

Whatever is that awful intersection halfway up Snowdon at K

Which one?

 

[JD]

This thread is bad for stoke..all runs are good..icy and crowded as hell is better than not skiing,,.

DISagree.

 

[RISkier]

To me almost any lone summit green or easy blue. Often very crowded with a mix of skiers of all abilities, and they seem to be the favorite playground of relatively poor skiers/riders who think they're hot but are really on the very edge of control. They can be especially nasty when they become feeder trails with more challenging terrain dumping into them.

 

[MrsG]

Careful with your hate on that. Traverse, it is, as is pretty obvious by the name and the way it's marked. However, it is a damn useful trail, especially on any windy day, very early/late season, or any other time the Needle's/Bear lifts are closed. If the K-1 is running, you can ski everything on Skye down to the GE/Snowshed Crossover crossing thanks to it. It's made a few powder days incredible...wind hold on everything on Skye/Bear...take the K-1>Launchpad>ski across until you find something that looks nice.

I agree with your "Careful with your hate" comment, however; Snowshed Crossover is history

 

[JimG.]

To me almost any lone summit green or easy blue. Often very crowded with a mix of skiers of all abilities, and they seem to be the favorite playground of relatively poor skiers/riders who think they're hot but are really on the very edge of control. They can be especially nasty when they become feeder trails with more challenging terrain dumping into them.

An exquisite segue to my comment about Belt Parkway at Hunter. And it really crosses nothing until the bottom where it merges with the bottom of Racer's.

A bowling alley any time of day because of the many "intermediates" who have to ski from the summit of Hunter.

 

[kingslug]

An exquisite segue to my comment about Belt Parkway at Hunter. And it really crosses nothing until the bottom where it merges with the bottom of Racer's.

A bowling alley any time of day because of the many "intermediates" who have to ski from the summit of Hunter.

But it can be fun to straight line on a Monday. I don't like the middle of Huegas.....talk about flat!! and when the wind picks up ....you're going backwards.

 

[shwilly]

To me almost any lone summit green or easy blue. Often very crowded with a mix of skiers of all abilities...

I know exactly the sort of trail you mean, but I'm of two minds about these. On the one hand, I don't want to be on them myself. On the other, the highways give all the begintermediates somewhere to congregate so they don't go wandering off onto more interesting trails. As long as there are multiple routes down, highways serve an important purpose.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

While the Northeast has lots of great trails, there are some that I can't stand. These are:

EXCELSIOR, WHITEFACE (First time I did it, my favorite. Second time it was all crowded and icy, especially at the top. It is now my least favorite ski trail ever)

The 1st time it’s your favorite; the 2nd time it’s your least favorite ever. I wonder what would have happened if you skied it a 3rd time?

Here’s the deal with EXCELSIOR, it’s the only blue trail from the summit of Little WF. When blue or less skiers pay $70 for a ticket they’re getting on the gondi whether they belong up there or not. So yeah, it gets crowded weekends on it especially at the steeper sections.

It’s fun to bomb in the morning or late in the afternoon. Anyone in the know avoids it other times weekends and holidays.

 

[KingM]

While we're on Sugarbush... Downspout.

They should just rename it Wind Tunnel and be done with it. I think it's meant to channel wind away from the lifts, to keep them from going on wind hold.

And it's a shame about that flat bit on FIS, because otherwise, I love Lower FIS.

 

[riverc0il]

Lower Downspout, Lower Jester, Gondolier, Castlerock Runout, etc. Bush has the worst run out ever. Jay isn't much better, but I can at least tolerate Kokamo/Lower Ullr's at Jay to a certain extent. Lincoln Peak run out is just brutal. The Snowdon intersection previously mentioned at Killington is amongst the worst intersections I have seen in all of New England that I have skied. Carnage. Grand Junction at Loon is pretty bad too.

I know many folks on here have that feel good vibe going on. But you gotta admit, a lot of the trails and intersections mentioned here you avoid at all costs. Hate may be a strong word, but for a select hand full of trails, it is applicable.

 

[MichaelJ]

The bottom of Bunny Buster at Killington. Narrow and quickly gets bumped up, but that's not the problem. The problem is the number of people who try to take it, especially early in the season when it's an essential part of the white ribbon of death, and cannot, and fall or even sit down, making it a nasty traffic jam just waiting for collisions.

 

[Skimaine]

Candyside - Loaf

Don't be hat'in Candyslide. At least it is all downhill.

 

[frozencorn]

kansas traverse to exit jordan bowl at sunday river.

x 11

 

[deadheadskier]

.....a number of responses here regarding either long traversing trails, run outs, bad intersections. While these are all worthy of mention, in most situations skiing them is avoidable. As an example don't like Kansas at SR? Take the Jordan double up and over to Aurora. Ask yourself, could these types of trails, intersections be cut in a different way to make them highly enjoyable? Most times not.

So, because of the above thought, I'm more likely to submit trails like Upper National at Stowe, White Nitro at Sugarloaf, White Heat at the River; I'm sure many would list Ovation and Double Dipper at K, Profile at Cannon. What I 'HATE' to see are trails that could've been or were awesome completely ruined by over widening in wind exposed areas.

Without going into all of these, I'll just comment on Upper National. If it was left half the width with another 30 feet of tree protection on the skiers left side of the trail, it would be a perfect 500 vertical steep bump run, much like the top of Starr that essentially follows the exact same contour of the mountain. Outside of the Waterfall at top skiers right, Starr NEVER gets to be the skied off slab with windblown ice that Upper National becomes for the entire season. What's particularly amusing is that on Stowe's Interactive trail map, it says it captures powder and holds snow well This horrid over widening not only makes Upper National essential worthless, but it also doubles the traffic on Liftline and makes the run in and corner at the top a luge run.

Seeing great terrain ruined by over widening is what I truly 'hate'. Run outs, long traverses, bad intersections don't bother me much, those are an is what it is scenario and really for the most part are unavoidable.

 

[C2H5OH]

Gore:
- Cedars (200' vertical, is it up or down?)

Whiteface:
- Brookside ("parkification" of it)

 

[legalskier]

Never saw one I disliked; each has its own interest/approach/conditions if you take the time to look. Wish I were on one right now. Now the people on those trails, well that's a different story....

 

[jaywbigred]

Upper Standard at Stratton. Wide? check. Windy? check. Icy? often. Crowded? Usually. Waste of a good fall line? check.

And then there is a the c0cktease factor, where they leave skier's left bumped up (to the tune of 2 mogul widths) so you can see the potential the trail WOULD have if it were narrower and all bumps.

 

[Scruffy]

.....a number of responses here regarding either long traversing trails, run outs, bad intersections. While these are all worthy of mention, in most situations skiing them is avoidable. As an example don't like Kansas at SR? Take the Jordan double up and over to Aurora. Ask yourself, could these types of trails, intersections be cut in a different way to make them highly enjoyable? Most times not.

So, because of the above thought, I'm more likely to submit trails like Upper National at Stowe, White Nitro at Sugarloaf, White Heat at the River; I'm sure many would list Ovation and Double Dipper at K, Profile at Cannon. What I 'HATE' to see are trails that could've been or were awesome completely ruined by over widening in wind exposed areas.

Without going into all of these, I'll just comment on Upper National. If it was left half the width with another 30 feet of tree protection on the skiers left side of the trail, it would be a perfect 500 vertical steep bump run, much like the top of Starr that essentially follows the exact same contour of the mountain. Outside of the Waterfall at top skiers right, Starr NEVER gets to be the skied off slab with windblown ice that Upper National becomes for the entire season. What's particularly amusing is that on Stowe's Interactive trail map, it says it captures powder and holds snow well This horrid over widening not only makes Upper National essential worthless, but it also doubles the traffic on Liftline and makes the run in and corner at the top a luge run.

Seeing great terrain ruined by over widening is what I truly 'hate'. Run outs, long traverses, bad intersections don't bother me much, those are an is what it is scenario and really for the most part are unavoidable.

I have to agree with you 100%.

 

[Skimaine]

Well said "deadheadskier". And don't forget that after widening and straightening, they will get brand new stupid names. Plant some trees and bring back Wedge!

 

[JerseyJoey]

Snowshed crossover, Killington ....

Not any more.