Nov 17 openings not looking so hot already....

[snowman]

Where do you get that 20 degree figure...manmade snow production depends on the wet bulb temperature..I've seen excellent snowmaking production during periods of upper 20s temperatures and low humidity..

You're an expert on snowmaking now are you? How much snow have you made in your lifetime exactly? How many days does the loaf get a year with humidity below 50 even? Go back to your stupid chart. It's obviously expert day here on Alpine zone. Greg's now a meterologist and grilled steeze is a snowmaking foreman. :blink:

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

You're an expert on snowmaking now are you? How much snow have you made in your lifetime exactly? How many days does the loaf get a year with humidity below 50 even? Go back to your stupid chart. It's obviously expert day here on Alpine zone. Greg's now a meterologist and grilled steeze is a snowmaking foreman. :blink:

Why do you have to be so rude??? I've never made snow before but I've seen ski areas pumping out copious amounts of snow with temperatures between 28 and 31 degrees. During the daytime Humidity is often below 50 percent all across the east..I've seen Mount Washington with sub 10 percent humidity, now that's dryer than Canada dry Ginger Ale. You don't have to be a meteorologist or a snowmaking foreman to know about weather and snowmaking...O.K. time to read more about snowmaking on the internet..

Peace Out Frosty..

 

[Greg]

Go back to your stupid chart. It's obviously expert day here on Alpine zone. Greg's now a meterologist and grilled steeze is a snowmaking foreman. :blink:

More condescending bullshit from snowman. Kind of ironic, actually. I come at you with the same matter-of-fact patronizing tone you give everyone else and look how whiney you get. I though you hated [POST="191910"]whiners[/POST]..? :lol:

 

[snowman]

In November, in the east, your humidity is often running 70-90 at night and you're lucky if it drys down to below 50 during the day, but then it's over 30 so you're sunk anyway. Watching a snowgun pump snow onto an already frozen trail in January when the sun is out and humidity is down as low as 20 hardly makes you an early season snowmaking expert. If it did, a 3 year old should be allowed to teach at a driving school. I DO happen to be an early season snowmaking expert. Thanks for coming out though!

 

[snowman]

More condescending bullshit from snowman. Kind of ironic, actually. I come at you with the same matter-of-fact patronizing tone you give everyone else and look how whiney you get. I though you hated [POST="191910"]whiners[/POST]..? :lol:

Kindly go back to changing the weather forecast for us so that we can go skiing. You're magic...remember?

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Kindly go back to changing the weather forecast for us so that we can go skiing. You're magic...remember?

Are you trying to make friends or enemies on here???

 

[snoseek]

In November, in the east, your humidity is often running 70-90 at night and you're lucky if it drys down to below 50 during the day, but then it's over 30 so you're sunk anyway. Watching a snowgun pump snow onto an already frozen trail in January when the sun is out and humidity is down as low as 20 hardly makes you an early season snowmaking expert. If it did, a 3 year old should be allowed to teach at a driving school. I DO happen to be an early season snowmaking expert. Thanks for coming out though!

I'm no expert here, but i'm pretty sure they can turn up the compressed air when temps are borderline. I think sunday river actually brings in huge supplemental generators early season. They really can do a lot quick-Maine above 2000 ft. gets cold pretty early.

 

[Greg]

Kindly go back to changing the weather forecast for us so that we can go skiing. You're magic...remember?

Don't get all in a huff. You're the one that started this doom and gloom thread with your weather.com extended forecast as if it were fact.

 

[snowman]

Are you trying to make friends or enemies on here???

I've read about enough of your 14-year-old-trapped-in-a-28-year-old's body crap to know I don't need you for a friend, that's for sure. You need to man up son. If a world war ever came along again, I'm 100% positive you'ld be the one guy found cowering in your mothers basement. Sorry, just being honest.

 

[OldsnowboarderME]

And all I wanted was a little peace and quiet in the forum ...

 

[snoseek]

I've read about enough of your 14-year-old-trapped-in-a-28-year-old's body crap to know I don't need you for a friend, that's for sure. You need to man up son. If a world war ever came along again, I'm 100% positive you'ld be the one guy found cowering in your mothers basement. Sorry, just being honest.

Why we gotta get all personal? Not very nice.

 

[snowman]

I'm no expert here, but i'm pretty sure they can turn up the compressed air when temps are borderline. I think sunday river actually brings in huge supplemental generators early season. They really can do a lot quick-Maine above 2000 ft. gets cold pretty early.

Yeah, you can do that, but they can't really afford to do that kind of stuff anymore. Look at Loveland for instance. It took them over 2 weeks to get one little trail open with temps and humidity a lot better than anything we're going to get before NOV 1. You also want your ground to freeze up a bit first as well, or you'll lose snow for months on which ever trail you cover due to the warm ground you trapped underneath it eating away at the snow you've made from below. I posted this thread as a reality check on what we can expect for skiing over the next month... barring some major snow events.

 

[millerm277]

And all I wanted was a little peace and quiet in the forum ...

Until someplace in the east opens for skiing all you're going to get is:

:flame::-o, possibly with a bit of :uzi: mixed in.

 

[snowman]

Why we gotta get all personal? Not very nice.

I'm not the guy posting my greatest fear as being scared to death of getting a girl pregnant... because I'll never man up to it, and be forced to pay child support, after I got done bashing veterans.

 

[snoseek]

Yeah, you can do that, but they can't really afford to do that kind of stuff anymore. Look at Loveland for instance. It took them over 2 weeks to get one little trail open with temps and humidity a lot better than anything we're going to get before NOV 1. You also want your ground to freeze up a bit first as well, or you'll lose snow for months on which ever trail you cover due to the warm ground you trapped underneath it eating away at the snow you've made from below. I posted this thread as a reality check on what we can expect for skiing over the next month... barring some major snow events.

Lovelands snowmaking does not compare to typical east coast systems.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I'm not the guy posting my greatest fear as being scared to death of getting a girl pregnant... because I'll never man up to it, and be forced to pay child support, after I got done bashing veterans.

Dude stop hijacking your own thread...most single guys who aren't ready for marriage and family would be frightened about getting a girl pregnant..especially because the pill is not 100 percent affective...and if there was a World War 3...I'd become a skibum again..I might as well enjoy my last days on this earth before it blows up at Jackson Hole as opposed to learning how to fighting...I'm a lover not a fighter...

As for snowmaking..Loveland is a poor example..Loveland does not have the uber powerful snowmaking systems that we're fortunate to have here in the northeast. All a place like Hunter or Okemo needs is 36 hours of snowmaking and they have a top to bottom run open...Magic I guess...

Keep it real Frosty..

 

[Greg]

I posted this thread as a reality check on what we can expect for skiing over the next month.

You might earn a small bit of credibility here if you post, specifically, what your ski industry experience is.

So...here you go, here's your chance to brag and shut us all up. The stage is yours.

 

[millerm277]

Yeah, you can do that, but they can't really afford to do that kind of stuff anymore. Look at Loveland for instance. It took them over 2 weeks to get one little trail open with temps and humidity a lot better than anything we're going to get before NOV 1

Yes, but you do have to remember, that Loveland's snowmaking system, while great for out there, is miniscule (from what I've seen of it) compared to what many places in the east have going.

Most places around here, can probably get at least a good sized trail open in 24 hours, placed with some real firepower, like SR or Hunter, or even Killington, can open multiple trails in 24 hours, probably even with marginal temps.

 

[snowman]

Lovelands snowmaking does not compare to typical east coast systems.

True, Loveland and A Basin most likely don't have as substantial a system as they have at the Loaf...however, they also didn't have nearly as far to cover to get open if the loaf is going to cover something off the superquad. They also have much beter humidty levels out west. It will take a heck of a lot nights of marginal temps (20-30) with no warm ups inbetween to get the Superquad open.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

But Sugarloaf doesn't typically open with the Superquad...have you ever skied Sugarloaf opening day? It's usually just Spillway...

Frosty is once again getting owned..pawned like a fish...mad opposite of an expert on the subject of snowmaking and the ski industry,,,