Pico Lift issue - 2.25.12

[SKIQUATTRO]

My daughter and i were skiing upper pike when i noticed the lift stopped...we kept skiing and the lift still wasnt turning..she wanted to go back to the summit to it Summit Glades, but as we neared the loading terminal, i noticed the lift still not moving and about 8 snomobiles (never a good sign)..just then i saw the liftie put the 'last chair' sign on the chair....we kept lapping off the Golden quad, and after about an hour all of patrol and mtn ops were assembled and they were going over the plan of attack...we skiied for another 20-30 min and circled back to watch them manually evac people...pretty cool to watch...people were up there for 1.5-2.5 hrs..wind was howling. heard they got a $10 Pico voucher and a free ticket. the reason for the long wait was they had to wait for patrol and mtn ops from killington to arrive to give a hand.

I was on 2nd chair up yesterday and was treated to boot to knee deep pow on giant killer/summit glades...awesome day

 

[orangegondola]

Magic's black chair has no Yan in it other than chairs. Terminals and towers and sheave assemblies are all original pohlig. Grips are Pohlig as well. The chairs and chairs only are Yan (They replaced the original doubles in 1985 and were purchased from Killington's Bear triple.). The chair has almost all new sheaves which are ctec/doppelmayr.

 

[threecy]

Magic's black chair has no Yan in it other than chairs. Terminals and towers and sheave assemblies are all original pohlig. Grips are Pohlig as well. The chairs and chairs only are Yan (They replaced the original doubles in 1985 and were purchased from Killington's Bear triple.). The chair has almost all new sheaves which are ctec/doppelmayr.

Interesting...did they upgrade the drive terminal?

 

[dennis]

Perhaps. But in all my years of skiing, the only time I've ever seen it done was on that Summit Pico lift when they held up the lift operations for almost an hour trying to get the spacing right.

They were not trying to get it right, they were trying to get close enough so the spacer could deal with it, on Poma’s, the spacer can only fix fine spacing errors and when two chairs are too close together it reacts to them as one. The chairs get this way mostly on start up when the lift has heavy frost or ice from freezing rain on the haul rope or the grips traction plate and the rope can’t drive the terminal or the terminal can’t drive the chair. So with Vermont weather it is very common, you just don’t see it too often because we try to fix it before anyone gets there.

 

[dennis]

Not on modern lifts with conveyor and clutch spacing, Poma, Doppelmayr, Yan or Frankenlift. Its certainly not the right way to run a detachable. A good anti-collison system wouldn't even tollerate that sort of rough spacing.

And yes it does trip the cadenceing system, they just had it bypassed to fix it.

 

[orangegondola]

Interesting...did they upgrade the drive terminal?

That's the Pohlig drive, while it has been modified several times it is pretty much the original structure, bullwheel etc.

 

[SIKSKIER]

Perhaps. But in all my years of skiing, the only time I've ever seen it done was on that Summit Pico lift when they held up the lift operations for almost an hour trying to get the spacing right.

I've seen it twice on a lift your very familiar with Steve.Maybe 4 or 5 years ago Cannon had the same spacing issue on the Peabody detach.They spent quite a bit of time pushing chairs around to resolve it.

 

[xlr8r]

Here are the pictures from Saturday
You can see the haulrope off of the sheaves coming into the bottom terminal in the last picture

 

[Highway Star]

Woah, wish I had taken a closer look, we were there and narrowly missed being on the lift.