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Are you talking about the kids or the parents? :roll:
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Poor Sportamanship - Lacrosse Official
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i think questioning a refs call happens in all levels and types of sports. shoot, if you have a question about a professor's grading methodology, wouldn't you ask? the reason i started this thread wasn't to discuss competition, talking to refs, or pride. it was to point out that a paid official lost his cool and acted inappropriately.
and to hijack my own thread... i think winning/losing, competition, playing time, and all the other lessons we learn in sports are diluted by this "let's all have fun and not have a loser" crap. kids learn lessons from sports. it's part of the reason i turned out to be so great. ;-) well, that and my pops.
and to hijack my own thread... i think winning/losing, competition, playing time, and all the other lessons we learn in sports are diluted by this "let's all have fun and not have a loser" crap. kids learn lessons from sports. it's part of the reason i turned out to be so great. ;-) well, that and my pops.
speaking for myself, both kids and parents.
sports have their way of weeding out different types of personalities. i saw it this year in my first year of coaching HS lax. too many times parents force their kids into sports when they flat out just don't belong. and there is nothing wrong with not wanting to participate in sports. but once you start forcing kids into sports they don't want to play the level of competition drops and the further degradation of competitive sports continues.
just my personal philosophy...
Both.
Oh, the parents can be utterly horrible. I've taken to finding a neutral corner and staying away from our group so as to not be identified with it. I've heard parents call refs all kinds of things. I've seen them accost refs after games. It's ugly.
And the kids learn from that. In one tournament, the opposing teams goalie didn't like an offsides call the ref made and yelled out "you can't make that call unless you move your fat ass down the field so you can actually see it". That goalie got a red card and was ejected. Then the ref had to hear from the opposing team's parents for the rest of the game. So the goalie, instead of being reprimanded by the parents, was made into a martyr. Sick!
To get back on topic, I guess what I'm saying is that I can understand if a ref gets to the boiling point and goes off like that. Unprofessional? Certainly. But understandable from an emotional standpoint. So give him a break.
The ref is wrong. He probably works a job all week. Refs at night and does this on the weekend. I think he needs a break. Probably a decent guy but is burning the candle at both ends.
He knows he is going to get crap as the authority figure and he knows responding the way he does only fuels it. He just cant control himself. breaktime.
As to whether you should report him is another story. Are there other refs out there to take his place, if so have at it. If not I would keep my trap shut so the calls dont go against your team
He knows he is going to get crap as the authority figure and he knows responding the way he does only fuels it. He just cant control himself. breaktime.
As to whether you should report him is another story. Are there other refs out there to take his place, if so have at it. If not I would keep my trap shut so the calls dont go against your team
You're probably right about the taking a break idea. It sounds like he was at the snapping point waiting for the catalyst to go off, then did.
And I wouldn't report him...refs also have a way of talking to other refs about troublesome situations. I'm a big fan of keeping the trap shut to avoid negative attention.
hammer
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Out of control...
I guess I'm not as tolerant of officials...they need to keep their cool no matter what c**p is thrown at them. Just eject the player with the attitude and leave it at that.
You're right...the refs need to maintain order and control. Going off like that increases the odds of total chaos.
I'm just empathizing with his state of mind...it's hard to have all that crap thrown at you over and over without going off in some way.
the ref in question had to ref our game in danbury, drive two towns over to ref a youth game in newtown, and then drive down to hoboken to ref a semi-pro game. and yes he works a full time job and ref during the week and on saturday also. at one point in the argument he said i don't need this crap and should be home with my wife and kids.
agreed. and that is what our ref shold have done instead of sinking to the players level. its the closest thing he can do to restoring order.
NYDrew
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Played Lacrosse in HS and 1 year of 1-AA and never seen an official react like that.
I play adult hockey and ill say that officiating like that has cause brawls. It starts with the ref calling every little stupid thing he sees in a sport where major penalties are left uncalled. Teams get tense, start complaining about calls and lack of and then we all take it out on each others. I walked away easy with a split chin. The guy I fought got a broken rib or two. Plenty of other nasty fights going on all around. All this because a ref was being a jerk.
I play adult hockey and ill say that officiating like that has cause brawls. It starts with the ref calling every little stupid thing he sees in a sport where major penalties are left uncalled. Teams get tense, start complaining about calls and lack of and then we all take it out on each others. I walked away easy with a split chin. The guy I fought got a broken rib or two. Plenty of other nasty fights going on all around. All this because a ref was being a jerk.
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