Potential Southern New England Amateur Mogul Competition at Ski Sundown

[Greg]

Agreed. Sundown just seems to get it & they serve an important niche for us hardcores who need a local night skiing option, among other things.

Greg: you ought to go to epicski & defend Sundown's reputation. There's some young whippersnapper over there who posted in the General Ski Forum about how much of a rip-off a season pass is at Sundown for "such a small mountain." Then other posters piled on just trashing Sundown, even though many of them had never skied it. I thought you'd be the perfect guy to vindicate Sundown's honor & reputation with a rebuttal.

Post a link so I can lay the smack down!

Nevermind. I found it. Bunch of fools:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?p=747016#post747016

Ohhhhhh...I get it. Throw the NY mod under the bus to impress the bump maker.

I don't think I used the word hype ever...I said you guys are hyper about it, that you really like it and talk about it alot. All I did was throw down the gauntlet and asked the hard question about why you guys like it so much. And there were many responses.

And then (please notice Mr. Bump Master) I said I should come over and check it out.

No respect!

:lol:

Gonna enter the bump comp too?

 

[JimG.]

Nevermind. I found it. Bunch of fools:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?p=747016#post747016

I keep doing these drive by shootings on the Killington issue. I put them everywhere. People don't want to hear it anymore. Know what I don't want to hear anymore?

Some kid fresh out of school bitching because he has to pay $470 for a season pass to Sundown so he can feed his ski jones. Poor baby! Really, it makes me sick. I didn't have a season pass to anywhere when I got out of college because I was too !@#$%ing poor to afford it.

Greg, you're defending Sundown but save your words because this is a money issue, a real world issue, not a matter of preference or whether Sundown is worth it or not.

If someone doesn't think season pass prices are worth it, don't ski!

 

[Greg]

pick a day and time

Not sure if you really would like us to suggest something, but when does Prep School racing end? According to your current Events line-up, the weekend of March 7-8 is open, or Saturday, March 15 is open. That wouldn't interefere with the Snowskate Series on 3/16, I'd imagine.

Saturday March 11th

Get yourself a new calendar!

 

[Greg]

Got a PM from Jarrod this morning indicating it can be a bit up to us as far as how this event gets structured! I've never entered an amateur mogul competition, or even attended one so I don't know much about how they are typically structured. I assume there should be some actual judging and scoring, but how closely do most events like this follow FIS rules, or are they typically more of a fun, loosely structured amateur event?

I would really like to have someone that knows more about these things chime in, especially if you've been involved with the arrangement of one in some way. I would imagine there should be some different divisions based on age, perhaps under and over 30? Two kickers would be cool and time scoring and judging should factor into it. Beyond this, I'm clueless so I'd like to hear others' thoughts.

 

[Greg]

Found a little blurb on Belleayre's event:

A special mogul competition open to the first 100 to register. Contestants will be judged on the ability to ski bumps with rhythm, ability to stay in the fall line with the fewest deviations and overall technical ability. Entry fee is $10.00 per person, and lift tickets are not included but required. Medals will be awarded as follows: score of 28-40 = gold, 16-27 - silver and 4-15 = bronze. Entry fee includes cake and event t-shirt. Entry forms are available at Belleayre Mountain or by mail. Don't miss this event!

BMMC:

Skiers tackle Outer Limits in seven different age categories for both men and women. Skiers are judged on turns and line (50%), air (25%) and speed (25%). Starting at 10 a.m. on Saturday, competitors each get one run. The top 32 men and 16 women will return to compete in a dual format on Sunday starting at 11 a.m. Entry fees are $50 and registration is open online at www.killington.com.

 

[2knees]

BMMC is pretty close to a standard world cup scoring format, if not identical. That would certainly be an option but the one thing i would like to see is less emphasis on air. Why? Cause i cant throw any tricks anymore. :wink:

Considering the length of the course they are talking about, i think one air would be sufficient. To try to cram two into the 250 vert or so they are talking about would make the actual bump skiing almost secondary as much of the time you'd be either in approach, in the air, on dealing with a landing. just my .02 cents.

 

[Greg]

Considering the length of the course they are talking about, i think one air would be sufficient. To try to cram two into the 250 vert or so they are talking about would make the actual bump skiing almost secondary as much of the time you'd be either in approach, in the air, on dealing with a landing. just my .02 cents.

A great point. Maybe one air is best.

 

[Greg]

I Emailed Dan DiPiro and here are his comments:

Hi Greg,

This is what I've seen in small, casual, open bump contests:

-Often judged by local USSA judges trained to work divisional, kids USSA
mogul contests. (Important to have good judges and an adequate scoring
system for a fair, fun contest. Perhaps the USSA could put you in touch
with some local judges willing to judge a non-USSA contest.)

-Usually two kickers on the course (four if there are two lanes), and
skiers who don't feel up to air just ski around them and don't jump. One
kicker would be okay too though. Important to build it well and pad the
landing with soft snow and no bumps.

-Runs are often just judged and not timed. But judges will "eyeball" your
speed and penalize you for an obviously slow run and reward you for
obvious speed, if it's controlled.

-Age groups and separate male and female divisions make it more fun for
more people. If you have a small turnout, though, you can't split up the
field too much. Common age divisions: 19 and under, 20-29, 30-39, etc.
Maybe a kids group (under 14?), if a bunch of kids turn out. Sometimes,
organizers will decide on the age groups after they see what the turnout
is!

-Ususally single format with two runs per skier, not dual format.

-Dan

All sounds good to me.

 

[Greg]

Bump. Any other comments here?

 

[Grassi21]

Any word on dates or locations?

 

[Greg]

Any word on dates or locations?

Nothing official yet. I'd like to drum up some more support. I guess it's a "go", but it would be nice to pin it down officially.

 

[bvibert]

Where has Jarrod been? Must be getting ready for the upcoming season and most importantly, this bump comp!