Powder Mountain, Utah Sold

[thetrailboss]

whatever. this is a terrible way to have a discussion.

There must be an echo in the room! :lol: Perhaps we can discuss Pow Mow rather than continuing on with the tangential broad mischaracterization and criticism over a particular point of view. That's why the discussion is terrible because of the insertion of crap that has nothing to do with the original topic.

Anyways, the new owners held a public meeting last week to introduce themselves and their ideas. I will see if I can find anything on it....

 

[Mpdsnowman]

It would be interesting to see what they will say. If they really have good intent then I think everyone would benefit. My concern would be...If they truly have good intent to "upgrade" for the use of a term, do they truly have the down to earth smarts to actually pull it off.

 

[thetrailboss]

I have never got out to Utah to ski, but I am hoping to get out there this year or next? What is the best mountain out there?

Lots to choose from! Shoot me a private message and we can discuss.

 

[thetrailboss]

Looks like management is responding to concerns:

 

[crank]

too clever by half. don't believe a word of it.

 

[riverc0il]

too clever by half. don't believe a word of it.

Yea, this seems like Jay's "Unchangable" campaign which was ill advised and short lived. You can't make changes and say "look over there! we didn't change "everything" (yet)".

 

[thetrailboss]

Bump.

This was in the SL Tribune:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56167412-78/summit-valley-ogden-eden.html.csp

Looks like they're off to a great start. :roll: Apparently they bought an "8,600 sq. foot house", spent a ton of money on it by adding steam baths and other things for their "gatherings," and are pissing locals off because they are partying the entire time in a residential area that is not zoned for their commercial activities...assuming that they are in fact commercial activities. They're just not being great neighbors. The comment about making Ogden the "next Boulder" was pretty funny.

The comments under the thread are pretty amusing.

I'm still skeptical of these folks. This is sounding more like a Ponzi scheme or something because it seems like they are spending other people's money on partying and not doing anything of real substance. :roll:

#notimpressed

 

[ScottySkis]

Bump.

This was in the SL Tribune:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56167412-78/summit-valley-ogden-eden.html.csp

Looks like they're off to a great start. :roll: Apparently they bought an "8,600 sq. foot house", spent a ton of money on it by adding steam baths and other things for their "gatherings," and are pissing locals off because they are partying the entire time in a residential area that is not zoned for their commercial activities...assuming that they are in fact commercial activities. They're just not being great neighbors. The comment about making Ogden the "next Boulder" was pretty funny.

The comments under the thread are pretty amusing.

I'm still skeptical of these folks. This is sounding more like a Ponzi scheme or something because it seems like they are spending other people's money on partying and not doing anything of real substance. :roll:

#notimpressed

Very strange. I hope this works out for Powder and people who enjoy the mountain. Guess will know more by end Wednesday, May 1.

 

[thetrailboss]

Maybe I am being too negative, but it just seems like this group is a way for rich young people to hang out together, do some yoga, party, and talk about what they are going to do to save the world....and yet nothing gets done. It just seems fishy that they are raising all this money and the only thing they are doing is blowing it on parties.

 

[thetrailboss]

Looks like they closed on the deal:

SAM Magazine--May 9, 2013--Summit, the producer of the leadership conference Summit Series, finalized its purchase of Powder Mountain, Utah. Plans for the 7,000-acre resort include a sustainable residential community called Summit Eden, which will become the home base for the organization and its leadership and cultural events. Over the years, Powder Mountain has been targeted for large-scale development, with plans for 10,000 homes, golf courses and more than a dozen new chairlifts. Summit Eden, however, will focus on 500 sustainable homesites and a small residential village. In addition, small cabins will be available as rotating residences for artists, musicians, non-profit leaders and start-up entrepreneurs. As for the skiing and snowboarding, Summit founder and CEO Elliott Bisnow said, "Powder Mountain will continue to welcome ski guests like family, as Summit is committed to maintaining the beloved character of this resort."

The Summit organization was created in 2008 as a conference in Alta, Utah, for 19 entrepreneurs and non-profit leaders. Since, the Summit Series has grown into a community of thousands of multi-disciplinary leaders in the fields of business, non-profits, academia and the arts.

Get ready.....

 

[ScottySkis]

Looks like they closed on the deal:



Get ready.....

I like this, thanks for posting that. Utah I be counting to I move out there.:beer:

 

[crank]

My girlfriend and I have been considering Eden as our likely retirement spot. Unfortunately, at 56, I am way too old to party with the summit group's 20 somethings. I can only hope they don't ruin pow mow's relaxed atmosphere.

As far as the party house thing... Utah can be pretty freaking uptight so you have to take that stuff with a few grains of salt. Still I am not exactly a cheerleader, nor could you say I am on board with this Summit Group's agenda. Go ahead and build you enclave; please just don't change the place very much is all I can ask.

 

[dlague]

in reference to the uptick in skiers that demand more intermediate terrain at the expense of the wood skiing at J, see also my reference to carving up the forest for people who don't feel comfortable in forests.

I grew up skiing Jay Peak, 30+ years now! When I first saw the new development, I was upset! However, the town of Jay does not offer much to the folks who stay at the resort and "that" on its own made Jay Peak unattractive for many. Our family has since taken advantage of many of the new ammenities and I will be the first to say that it makes perfect sense! Lets face it we are not all glade skiers/snowboarders! We are all not park rats! We are not all ski racers! We are all not bump skiers/snowboarders! We are all not groomer cruisers! We are all not powder hounds! And the list goes on!

I love the glades at Jay Peak and since I have skied there, I do not see the glades getting carved up to serve an intermmediate crowd! Unfortunately, todays ski areas have to be everything to everyone to survive! Take a look around and see how many ski areas have zip lines, mountain biking, coasters, outdoor water parks! So what! Jay has stuff unrelated to skiing like the water park, an ice arena, arcade, bars and retaurants, a golf course, etc. It gives people something to do when the lifts are not running is that so bad? As far as increasing jobs - I lived in the Newport area and Jobs are welcomed. The only bad part that I see now - people are moving to that area that never lived there before for the jobs! The same thing will happen at Powder!

Powder - will probably change to some vision of the investors - they bought it! For the locals - better off open then closed! In fact, if any changes are significant - we shall see - then employment opportunities with grow. I really do think that they will try to better the Ogden model. As far as not being in the ski industry, well there happens to be a few top snowboarders and skiers in the mix and i am sure they will not be the folks running it - they will hire people for that!

We can agure amongst each other about points of view - the reality is - money chnages things and you just have to let go of the past and deal with the future - or - buy your own ski area and make it your vision!

 

[ScottySkis]

I grew up skiing Jay Peak, 30+ years now! When I first saw the new development, I was upset! However, the town of Jay does not offer much to the folks who stay at the resort and "that" on its own made Jay Peak unattractive for many. Our family has since taken advantage of many of the new ammenities and I will be the first to say that it makes perfect sense! Lets face it we are not all glade skiers/snowboarders! We are all not park rats! We are not all ski racers! We are all not bump skiers/snowboarders! We are all not groomer cruisers! We are all not powder hounds! And the list goes on!

I love the glades at Jay Peak and since I have skied there, I do not see the glades getting carved up to serve an intermmediate crowd! Unfortunately, todays ski areas have to be everything to everyone to survive! Take a look around and see how many ski areas have zip lines, mountain biking, coasters, outdoor water parks! So what! Jay has stuff unrelated to skiing like the water park, an ice arena, arcade, bars and retaurants, a golf course, etc. It gives people something to do when the lifts are not running is that so bad? As far as increasing jobs - I lived in the Newport area and Jobs are welcomed. The only bad part that I see now - people are moving to that area that never lived there before for the jobs! The same thing will happen at Powder!

Powder - will probably change to some vision of the investors - they bought it! For the locals - better off open then closed! In fact, if any changes are significant - we shall see - then employment opportunities with grow. I really do think that they will try to better the Ogden model. As far as not being in the ski industry, well there happens to be a few top snowboarders and skiers in the mix and i am sure they will not be the folks running it - they will hire people for that!

We can agure amongst each other about points of view - the reality is - money chnages things and you just have to let go of the past and deal with the future - or - buy your own ski area and make it your vision!

Good info but how does it effect Powder Mountain in Utah?

 

[thetrailboss]

Good info but how does it effect Powder Mountain in Utah?

Yeah what does this have to do with Powder Mountain? There is no real comparison as to what is going on....except on a real superficial level. Jay is run by its longtime management that has been working to develop the resort. Summit Group is a bunch or rich kids (my age) who have no real experience running a ski area.

 

[SIKSKIER]

Utah I be counting to I move out there.:beer:

Translation?

 

[ScottySkis]

Translation?

I will be moving to Utah sometime in the near future.:beer:

 

[snoseek]

Coulda been Vail.

I mean this would have a perfect place for VR to enter the Utah market. The terrain is right up their alley and the acerage would have given them room to do their thing. We'll see what happens to pass prices and you'll get the idea i think

 

[thetrailboss]

Coulda been Vail.

I mean this would have a perfect place for VR to enter the Utah market. The terrain is right up their alley and the acerage would have given them room to do their thing. We'll see what happens to pass prices and you'll get the idea i think

I think, as crazy as it sounds, that this is just too far out of the way for them. Powder has had many recent owners. Snowbasin is an awesome mountain, but it is not setting the world on fire with development or growth....

 

[marcski]

They just don't have the penache of the canyon resorts. Even with the olympics being held at Snowbasin. IMHO, they also don't have the terrain...at least Powder doesn't.