Resort Improvements 2015

[ThinkSnow]

I'm a big fan of the pod setup at SB. for the most part, I only take a base lift once in the morning and once after lunch. The upper mtn lift setup lets me do laps thereby avoiding the run outs and lift lines. also has a tendency to keep those less skilled off the more advanced terrain.
as for the shuffle up from the heavens gate, as previously mentioned, there is a a short cut through the woods to get to organgrinder just below the lift shack that obviates the need to go up.

+1

Also, the shuffle up from HG and transition from GH to NLT also helps slow down those less skilled skiers (those in favor of regrading the area).

 

[dlague]

I don't view Killington as having a base to summit lift. Also, Sugarbush is 2 distinct mountains, neither with base to summit.

So I think its more evenly split, especially when you look at the larger mountains.

I find those areas that have base to summit lifts also have huge lines at those very lifts. At least if the lifts are at different elevations, the lines are spread out.

 

[catsup948]

Berkshire East will not be expanding skiing terrain this summer. Mountain bike trail building is taking precedent. The bike park at Berkshire East is going to be very special from what I hear.

 

[mbedle]

Ignoring the typical run outs, I wondering if you truly get in more skiing lapping an upper lift with smaller lift lines or lapping the entire mountain with a longer lift line at the bottom. Now, if you are someone that only wants to ski the steeper upper parts of the mountain, than having the mid mountain lifts makes perfect sense. I guess what I was getting at with stating that I thought sugarbush should have one is it offers the option to ski the entire vertical of the mountain. I wasn't stating that they shouldn't have the mid mountain lifts, just the addition of a base to top lift would be nice (for some skiers).

 

[cdskier]

I guess what I was getting at with stating that I thought sugarbush should have one is it offers the option to ski the entire vertical of the mountain.

To be fair, you CAN ski the entire vertical of SB as once you get to the top there's nothing to stop you from skiing all the way to the base in one shot You just can't lap that vertical over and over with only 1 lift (which many people I know have no interest in doing anyway). The lack of a mid-mountain lift was one of my biggest complaints about Stowe. I see no point in skiing the bottom 1/3-1/2 of the mountain there and then having to wait in long lines at the base to get back up to the terrain I really am interested in.

 

[cdskier]

I had an opportunity to buy one around that time fir DIRT cheap. I'm kicking myself for not doing it.


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Existing condos in some of the older complexes in the area are probably still pretty reasonable (maybe not dirt cheap, but reasonable). I haven't checked prices today, but 5 years ago when I bought my condo I was happy with what I paid. The new stuff is what is insane.

 

[Jully]

Berkshire East will not be expanding skiing terrain this summer. Mountain bike trail building is taking precedent. The bike park at Berkshire East is going to be very special from what I hear.

Dang. Was looking forward to a new expansion. Bike park is going to be pretty awesome though

 

[benski]

I'm a big fan of the pod setup at SB. for the most part, I only take a base lift once in the morning and once after lunch. The upper mtn lift setup lets me do laps thereby avoiding the run outs and lift lines. also has a tendency to keep those less skilled off the more advanced terrain.
as for the shuffle up from the heavens gate, as previously mentioned, there is a a short cut through the woods to get to organgrinder just below the lift shack that obviates the need to go up.

The cut is sometimes closed due to people shooting out of the end.



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[dlague]

Ignoring the typical run outs, I wondering if you truly get in more skiing lapping an upper lift with smaller lift lines or lapping the entire mountain with a longer lift line at the bottom. Now, if you are someone that only wants to ski the steeper upper parts of the mountain, than having the mid mountain lifts makes perfect sense. I guess what I was getting at with stating that I thought sugarbush should have one is it offers the option to ski the entire vertical of the mountain. I wasn't stating that they shouldn't have the mid mountain lifts, just the addition of a base to top lift would be nice (for some skiers).

Well if we use K-1 Gondola as an example - the line line is ridiculous, the run out from the Canyon is boring, Bunny Buster always has heavy traffic, and the top section is a flat run on Great Northern so the sweet spot is the Canyon trails (for the most part) and for all intensive purposes - the Canyon Quad is all you need there. The summit doe not buy you much.

In the case of SB, if there is a base to summit chair then more beginner/intermediates would ride the lift adding the wrong kind of traffic that might be temped to ski Rip Cord, Paradise and Organgrinder, not to mention like someone mentioned earlier, Jester would get skied off even faster. Also there are no real beginner trails from the summit.

 

[dlague]

I'm a big fan of the pod setup at SB. for the most part, I only take a base lift once in the morning and once after lunch. The upper mtn lift setup lets me do laps thereby avoiding the run outs and lift lines. also has a tendency to keep those less skilled off the more advanced terrain.
as for the shuffle up from the heavens gate, as previously mentioned, there is a a short cut through the woods to get to organgrinder just below the lift shack that obviates the need to go up.

The cut is sometimes closed due to people shooting out of the end.

That cut through was open on the last weekend of the season - much easier way!

 

[steamboat1]

Well if we use K-1 Gondola as an example - the line line is ridiculous, the run out from the Canyon is boring, Bunny Buster always has heavy traffic, and the top section is a flat run on Great Northern so the sweet spot is the Canyon trails (for the most part) and for all intensive purposes - the Canyon Quad is all you need there. The summit doe not buy you much.

The summit buys you upper Catwalk, upper Downdraft, upper Cascade, upper Escapade, & Helter Skelter. Not exactly terrain to sneeze at. It's your choice if you only use upper Great Northern.

 

[dlague]

The summit buys you upper Catwalk, upper Downdraft, upper Cascade, upper Escapade, & Helter Skelter. Not exactly terrain to sneeze at. It's your choice if you only use upper Great Northern.

Still do not think it is worth it! Never been on Helter Skelter or Catwalk but have been on the others.

Speaking of Catwalk - why do these people insist on skiing where they can not - check this guy out!

 

[deadheadskier]

Never skied Catwalk? One of my favorites at Killington. Definitely worth the small hike.

 

[WWF-VT]

That cut through was open on the last weekend of the season - much easier way!

I can't beiieve that people complain about the 30 second uphill shuffle at the top of the Heavens Gate lift

 

[steamboat1]

I can't beiieve that people complain about the 30 second uphill shuffle at the top of the Heavens Gate lift

Look what Stowe did with the new Forerunner chair. It now goes to a higher point so you don't have to climb to get to Nosedive anymore.

 

[cdskier]

The cut is sometimes closed due to people shooting out of the end.

Really? I've never seen it closed. I'm up HG pretty much at least a few times every weekend unless it is on wind hold or I head over to ME. Even if I head to ME one day, I'm still usually at LP the other day (or 2 if I take a long weekend).

I do worry about the exit onto OG sometimes though as the visibility uphill isn't great until you're pretty much onto OG. I've often wondered if anyone ever ran someone over shooting out of that spot.

 

[deadheadskier]

I can't beiieve that people complain about the 30 second uphill shuffle at the top of the Heavens Gate lift

It really isn't bad at all. A little exercise is good

 

[JimG.]

Still do not think it is worth it! Never been on Helter Skelter or Catwalk but have been on the others.

Speaking of Catwalk - why do these people insist on skiing where they can not - check this guy out!

What's amazing is that they video and post their "descent".

 

[benski]

Really? I've never seen it closed. I'm up HG pretty much at least a few times every weekend unless it is on wind hold or I head over to ME. Even if I head to ME one day, I'm still usually at LP the other day (or 2 if I take a long weekend).

I do worry about the exit onto OG sometimes though as the visibility uphill isn't great until you're pretty much onto OG. I've often wondered if anyone ever ran someone over shooting out of that spot.

It has happened. I think it was only during holidays which may have been why you were not at lp.


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[steamboat1]

What's amazing is that they video and post their "descent".

Guess you've never seen the vid with the guy taking off his ski's & ski boots & trying to walk up Catwalk in socks..:razz: