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RIP Ted Kennedy (No Politics)

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I'll miss him... (

He was the kind of Senator that stuck up for the little guy...
He could join together both parties when it counted...

It's sad day for our country.... :(
 

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Just because someone is part of history doesn't mean they deserve tribute any more than any other human.


Only if you hate the guys guts... I guess if it was someone you agreed with politically you'd the give them a tribute...

When Ronald Reagan died - I felt sad and enjoyed the tributes... I didn't really agree with his politics but i recognized the great things he DID DO for the US and the world...
 

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Might just have to break out the bottle of Chivas tonight for a memorial swig

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Ignoring the politics and whether Teddy was just a figurehead or if he actually was involved in all that policy making, that 47 years of safe seat in the Senate created a huge amount of power because of the Senate seniority system.
 

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The man like so many other public figures was an enigma wrapped in a paradox !

His life and career was divided in stages some not so admirable and at the latter third of life considerably admirable .

All in all , a human passes on and we can choose to react as human beings and accentuate the GOOD or focus on the frailities that exist in us all .

It was said over two thousand years ago "Let he/She who is WITHOUT fault cast the first stone" --still applies tody
 

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Only if you hate the guys guts... I guess if it was someone you agreed with politically you'd the give them a tribute...

When Ronald Reagan died - I felt sad and enjoyed the tributes... I didn't really agree with his politics but i recognized the great things he DID DO for the US and the world...

Oh I've got plenty to say about Reagan, but will respect Trailbosses wishes and not turn this into a political thread.
 

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The man like so many other public figures was an enigma wrapped in a paradox !

His life and career was divided in stages some not so admirable and at the latter third of life considerably admirable .

All in all , a human passes on and we can choose to react as human beings and accentuate the GOOD or focus on the frailities that exist in us all .

It was said over two thousand years ago "Let he/She who is WITHOUT fault cast the first stone" --still applies tody

Especially if you are living in a glass house. Or something.


I think, therefore I am... hungry. I think I'm going to go get dinner.
 

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Only if you hate the guys guts... I guess if it was someone you agreed with politically you'd the give them a tribute...

When Ronald Reagan died - I felt sad and enjoyed the tributes... I didn't really agree with his politics but i recognized the great things he DID DO for the US and the world...
I'm with HPD on this one. I don't think the tribute is automatic, I also don't think it's fair to heap on insults and jokes because of his death. I figure I'll refrain from making the easy Ted Kennedy jokes for a couple weeks out of respect for his family, but will continue later on in the same manner I did before his death.

I just don't hold elected officials in that high of regard, no matter their politics. There was a column in Time's most influential people issue about who the columnist would rank as the most important. About 5 of the 100 for the official list made his, just because they were the ones he knew personally. If Sergey Brin or Larry Page died tomorrow, would it be the widespread news story Kennedy is? Linus Torvalds? Where was the tribute to Kelly Johnson or Ben Rich? There are tons of people more influential and deserving of tribute than Kennedy, the difference is Kennedy was in the spotlight. I didn't really think that much of Reagan's passing, either; especially given the two lived to be reasonable ages.
Especially if you are living in a glass house. Or something.


I think, therefore I am... hungry. I think I'm going to go get dinner.
 

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The man like so many other public figures was an enigma wrapped in a paradox !

His life and career was divided in stages some not so admirable and at the latter third of life considerably admirable .

All in all , a human passes on and we can choose to react as human beings and accentuate the GOOD or focus on the frailities that exist in us all .

It was said over two thousand years ago "Let he/She who is WITHOUT fault cast the first stone" --still applies tody

I'm with Warp.....RIP Senator Ted. It's undeniable the man did some very positive things in his life. As with anyone, in death, I think it's best to show respect for that.

I can say this even though not his politics, but his career goes 100% against my belief that politics should never be a profession. In my opinion, the biggest problem in government that creates such huge inefficiencies in progressing as a nation, is the career politician. Ted did some wonderful things, that said, I think his tenure was about 35 years too long. Anything over a decade is too much in my book, no matter how great a leader / decision maker.

I mean not to debate nor offend if those comments are too political.

RIP TED
 

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I'm with HPD on this one. I don't think the tribute is automatic.....
A tribute is a media creation...ie something that'll SELL to more viewers than their competitors... That's it. All the a-holes solely driven, and paid, by political warfare need to get over it....but unfortunately the political warriors are paid to accomplish nothing, unlike those like Johnson, Rich, Craft...etc.
 

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Don't have a high regard for JFK, Lincoln, Washington etc?
Not automatically, and not for JFK or even Washington's presidency in particular. Or Adams, Madison, Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Pierce, Buchanan, Grant as President, [I always get a little fuzzy with the Gilded Age presidents, but not for any of them,] McKinley, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower as President, Ford, Carter as President, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, or Obama.

Presidents are batting 7 for 44 in my book.
 

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Not automatically, and not for JFK or even Washington's presidency in particular. Or Adams, Madison, Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Pierce, Buchanan, Grant as President, [I always get a little fuzzy with the Gilded Age presidents, but not for any of them,] McKinley, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower as President, Ford, Carter as President, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, or Obama.

Presidents are batting 7 for 44 in my book.


Wow.. I respect the shti out of people that lead this crazy country... I even have a certain degree of respect for the ones i don't agree with...
 

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So.... Monroe, Jefferson, Lincoln, Nixon, TR, Fillmore... who am I missing....


LBJ?

Are those the seven?

If I thought 90% of elected(some questionably) US Presidents sucked...
I'd probably find another country... Or become a communist...
 
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