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VTpowder

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even with a foot of snow in the next storm, there will not be enough to ski natural snow trails at jay, the snow that is on the ground now is smoke and you might as well be skiing on grass, if it is blower, it will just be more of the same. we need some wet snow not cold smoke. you are asking for an injury if you were to try and ski anywhere else on the mt except for the jet and haynes.
 

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Jay has updated thier site to be more conservative:

As far as I'm concerned Jay's marketing will get more respect if they under estimate storms and then end up getting more snow RATHER than disappointing people by over estimating and ending up with less.
yea, but if they underestimated storms... fewer people would show up. i think jay would rather empty people's pockets and let them leave disappointed than have fewer people show up and have them leave happy. doesn't make much sense. i voiced my opinion last year when jay asked their customers for comments and was told it was being addressed but i am not so sure based on this week's hype. worst of all, it isn't like any of the open trails would have powder on them, everything is getting mowed down by the groomers except maybe liftline under jet triple which would be pow for all of one run.

VTpowder said:
even with a foot of snow in the next storm, there will not be enough to ski natural snow trails at jay, the snow that is on the ground now is smoke and you might as well be skiing on grass, if it is blower, it will just be more of the same. we need some wet snow not cold smoke. you are asking for an injury if you were to try and ski anywhere else on the mt except for the jet and haynes.
i beg to differ. you sound conservative with your natural snow skiing and that is fine. but i have skied and will gladly ski again a foot of blower with absolutely no base. bring your rock skis and make sure the slope is shallow pitch and free of debris or rocks, don't make cut turns but rather shallow and easy pow gliding turns. it would hardly be asking for an injury and if there is enough blower, i'll definitely have my rock skis this weekend. though i agree that this time of year, base building wet snow and lots of it is much more important, this blower stuff does nothing to help with the base which further adds insult to injury on jay's hype.
 

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Just use your head and Ski it if you can

Just use your head and ski it if you can! This weekend is offering advanced skiing everywhere. Even the beginner slopes at Kmart will have too many people so they quickly become advanced slopes. A foot of fluff on nothing is very advanced skiing (with rock skis) but with the right ability, attitude and equipment...can be fun. Just remember safety is first, keep your tips up and ski in groups of 3
 

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i 'll tell you what river, i skied a foot of blower at jay on tuesday, on shallow pitch of the northway using your prescribed technique and rock skis, and that is the basis of my report /comment posted previous. the only thing skiable is completely flat terrain, fun maybe, but kind of pointless, to each there own i guess.
 

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to each their own indeed. i wouldn't consider northway, regardless of pitch, a very good slope for skiing with only a foot of blower based on what is under the snow and deep waterbars. lower haynes or lower derrick on the other hand, flat smooth, and grassy. a foot of blower over smooth and grassy surfaces without rocks isn't that horrible, so long as you don't mind a little base damage.
 

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Looks like they are rephrasing a few things on the website now. I am heading up to Jay tomorrow afternoon. Ski sat and sun. We will see what happens.
 

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the link is broken tin, i think you were trying to point to this:
http://list.uvm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0612a&L=skivt-l&D=1&O=D&P=33989

however, roemer has apparently already taken down the offending article. for those that missed this dude in action, roemer had apparently copy and pasted into his blog (including deep sourcing an image from the article) a FTO news story, word for word. his blog also has a new york post story apparently that looks like it was also lifted. this is bad form in general, i would not lift an article for my personal blog, let alone for a blog linked to a for profit business. accepted practice is posting a quote or maybe a short paragraph with a link to the source. this is pretty sad.
 

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All you need to know about Roemer.

Roemer: Plagiarizer and Bandwidth Thief

the link is broken tin, i think you were trying to point to this:
http://list.uvm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0612a&L=skivt-l&D=1&O=D&P=33989

however, roemer has apparently already taken down the offending article. for those that missed this dude in action, roemer had apparently copy and pasted into his blog (including deep sourcing an image from the article) a FTO news story, word for word. his blog also has a new york post story apparently that looks like it was also lifted. this is bad form in general, i would not lift an article for my personal blog, let alone for a blog linked to a for profit business. accepted practice is posting a quote or maybe a short paragraph with a link to the source. this is pretty sad.

Ooof.... :blink:

I will bite my tongue here and keep my opinions to myself. One thing I can say for certain is that Marc Guido from FTO is a true stand up guy. Based on that, you can draw your own conclusions...
 

Jerry Frainer

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Roemer and bestskiweather

A friend in New York told me about Alpine Zone, so I thought I check it out, especially since I am moving up north for the winter.

In all fairness to the guy, he is without a doubt the most consistently good weather forecaster out there. I have seen his reports on Jay and Sugarbush's site for years, and yes he blows some, but who does not. I think since he wrote the report late Wednesday Jay will probably fall into his 7-11" category, then again, Jay often exaggarates their snowfall somewhat

The guy has a bit of an ego, as you can see from his site www.bestskiweather.com
But there are lots of cool images and a ton of lessons, on various blogs, on how to forecast and podcasts. I don't think any site can compare to his, but charging for it, that ticks me off.

Anyway, I hear from a friend of mine who subscribes to his site that he is calling for a breakdown in the weather pattern and pretty lousy weather in the east starting next week into the following week. He based this on some 1994 analog or something? According to Roamer, Whistler is going to get another 2-4 feet by this time next week and Tahoe will finally get some

JF
 

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welcome to AZ jerry. my experiences with roemer differ substantially in regards to accuracy. the aspect of accuracy that matters most to me is consistency. the weather guys i listen to least are those that are consistently off significantly and make big bold calls that are way off the mark. in other words, when a weather guy is wrong, he is WAY off. roemer either nails it 100% or he is WAY the hell off in another country. it can not be over looked they he does significant business with a biased client that wants big forecasts.... ski resorts. in this case, roemer pretty much nailed it with his 7-11" at jay at 80% as jay got 10". but, what i will remember most about this roemer call is that jay did not get a hyped potential 11-16" or perhaps even more. this is hype, even with 30-40 odds, especially when it is posted to a ski resort forecast. for my weather forecasts? i'll stick with scott at skivtl/FTO, NWS, NECN, and taking a peak at the discussions on easternwx forums and make my own conclusions.
 

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Thanks Steve for your response. I know that Roemer was forecasting a 80% chance of 1-2 feet at Jay with a major change in the dreary pattern about 8 days ago, for this week and was right on. I am headed out west to Whistler next week, in which he is forecasting 2-4 feet more by next Wednesday or so. I know that I have made many trips out west on his advice. I will be interested to hear Scott's forecasts. How do I get them.
Yes, I know Jay probably over estimates snowfall by 20% of so, but so does other resorts like Stowe. I think Sugarbush and Mad River Glen is the most honest.
There was a blog on the top of his site predicting 6-10" of snow in New Hampshire last night with some cool images. I don't know what they got but everyone else was calling for 1-4" so I am curious to see. Thanks for your comments

JF
 

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Ooof.... :blink:

I will bite my tongue here and keep my opinions to myself. One thing I can say for certain is that Marc Guido from FTO is a true stand up guy. Based on that, you can draw your own conclusions...

Thanks for your kind words, Greg.

I for one am appalled that 1) Mr. Roemer would misappropriate copyrighted material for his own benefit, and use paid bandwidth on another server to further his commercial interests, and 2) refuse to compensate the damaged party for doing so once called on the carpet for it.

For those who may be interested in learning more about this, the details and copies of the unauthorized publication are located here:

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2450

As I'm sure Greg will attest, running a ski-related website is a labor of love that's often a struggle to maintain as a profitable venture. Our server expenses come out of my own pocket, and to have someone blatantly misuse our services comes directly out of my family's bottom line. I'm typically working until 1 am or 2 am to ensure that we have fresh news to deliver to our readers daily, and to have someone simply copy and paste it and publish it as their own for profit, not to mention adding to my monthly bill by their inappropriate actions, is an insult to my sensibilities. In essence, not only has our content been taken without permission, but I'm being forced to actually pay for the theft.
 
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