Should ski patrollers be required to wear helmets???

[jack97]

As far as setting a good example- I could see how the argument could be made. Patrollers for the most part are required to ski in control, at reasonable speeds, stop in safe places and generally set good examples in all other facets of on mountain behavior.. no?

I think they should get rid of the ski patrollers, any skiers going into terrain over the head without the proper techniques, skills and outerwear should be left hanging out there on their own. This way we can ensure the weak will die off and leave the really radical terrain to the true experts since they really don't need that safety net.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Sure it's a person choice, but wearing seat belts is a law in most states (if not all). OK, so personal choice to get pulled over, get a ticket, points on you license in some states and pay a hefty fine in some states. Your choice.
This is a pet peeve of mine. Two years ago, my cousin chose to make a choice -- NOT to wear a seat belt, was ejected from his car, killed instantly. His four children, wife, family, friends, etc. lost a wonderful person.

When my father was 30 years old he was driving when hit by another vehicle. The seat belt he was wearing snapped his hip. He has had many years of issues from that accident.

I do not think that there should be seat belt laws or helmet laws for skiers or motorcycle riders. Having said that I always wear my seat belt, and helmet. I just want the option(even though I always do).

However I could agree with a mountain having a requirement of there employees(paid or volunteer) to wear a helmet.

 

[RootDKJ]

Really no beards allowed at Hunter..next thing you know ski resorts will be drug testing employees...then all the liftees will lose their jobs..lol

When I was an EMT, the company had adopted a "no beards" policy:evil:. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I was written up for my goatee.

 

[2knees]

i think snowboarders should have to wear helmets while smoking cigarettes in the liftline at mad river glen.

 

[sledhaulingmedic]

People who are smarter about their safety, ... not deep frying a turkey in a pot on their gas stove at home,... will have a greater likelyhood of seeing tomorrow dawn.

Shhhhhhhh! Don't let the word out. It's job security for me. (My unofficial moto: Stupidty is my job security. A close second was: I interfere with Natural Selection.)

 

[davidhowland14]

When my father was 30 years old he was driving when hit by another vehicle. The seat belt he was wearing snapped his hip. He has had many years of issues from that accident.

I'm sorry, and i mean no insult to your father, but I cannot accept that line of reasoning. If your father had not been wearing a seatbelt, he could have gone through the windshield and been killed. Would he rather have hip issues, or be dead?

 

[2Planker]

When my father was 30 years old he was driving when hit by another vehicle. The seat belt he was wearing snapped his hip. He has had many years of issues from that accident.

I do not think that there should be seat belt laws or helmet laws for skiers or motorcycle riders. Having said that I always wear my seat belt, and helmet. I just want the option(even though I always do).

However I could agree with a mountain having a requirement of there employees(paid or volunteer) to wear a helmet.

Where was thePoint of Impact ?

I find it hard to believe that the seatbelt broke a hip. Center console or door maybe...

The impact itself certainly on the driver's side could have broken the hip , or impact on the pass. side, that means that him hitting the drivers door could have done it. If he wasn't wearing a seat belt the damage would have been a lot more severe

Seat belts Fx. Clavicle's + Ribs - but they save lives. I was hit head on (@ 45mph) and walked away w/ broken ribs - But the belt + an airbag saved my life !

 

[2Planker]

Really no beards allowed at Hunter..next thing you know ski resorts will be drug testing employees...then all the liftees will lose their jobs..lol

Some resorts DO drug test ! SR did in the 90's

 

[o3jeff]

Don't forget that back when his dad was 30 the cars only had lap belts, no shoulder belts.

 

[Marc]

Ask yourself what is the biggest killer of firemen. Answer heart attack. Maybe the reason for that is all that damn hot gear they are wearing and the added stress to their bodies.

Yeah that... or maybe it's because a lot of firefighters are volunteer (and a fair share of full timers I guess) 40 and 50 year olds who never exercise, drink too much beer, smoke and eat crap all the time. I guarantee, despite that the leading cause of LODD's is heart attack, that burn injuries or other exposure related injuries would by far take over MI's if all firefighters stopped wearing bunkers. All that proves is more firefighters should be in shape, and that we have really good gear.

I say that because we haven't gone into actual numbers of LODD's... just what's the highest. Ok, heart attacks are highest percentage but still only account for about 40 deaths average in the US annually out of ~110 average LODD's. What do you think that would be, and what do you think the injury rate would climb to be without bunker gear. Do you know what kind of LODD numbers we saw before near universal acceptance of bunker gear? I don't even get what asinine point you're trying to make.

Maybe ski patrollers should have to wear full turn out gear with an air pack when responding to an accident. Most patrollers are a lot older than the age of interior fire fighters.

Don't be infantile. Clearly when talking about helmets, there's at least an outside chance it will let patrollers perform their job safer, enough of one to warrant a more in depth look, at any rate.

 

[Hawkshot99]

I'm sorry, and i mean no insult to your father, but I cannot accept that line of reasoning. If your father had not been wearing a seatbelt, he could have gone through the windshield and been killed. Would he rather have hip issues, or be dead?

O, I know he would have way more messed up than broken hip, but maybe he would have been perfectly fine....... What I was trying to say, was leave it as a choice to the people. I hate all of the stupid laws, requiring seat belts and helmets.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

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[RootDKJ]

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and there you go....the SP can no longer count to 6 due to all the head injuries:roll:

 

[Shorty]

Having been a volunteer FF, and currently an active voli patroller, I still voted no we should not be required to wear a helmet. I do, and as a FF I always kept my pack on during overhaul(something most guys didn't do)
As far as making it safer for us to do our jobs, yes they can but I see it as my responsibility to ski safely and set an example that way not by what I wear. I have found that having a cross on my back is sometimes mistaken as a target which is where the helmet can benefit. We are most vulnerable while we are attending to a skier/rider in need.
If we had to set examples by what we wear, I would never see people out without gloves on, or skiing in jeans that are soaked and frozen, or any of the other numerous WTF's I see each weekend.
We have seatbelt laws on the books, yet I know and see many cops that do not wear a seat belt in their patrol car (although they wear in in their personal vehicle) I have ben told that it slows their exit during a switch to a foot pursuit (I disagree) but this is an example of do as I say not as I do.
I just don't beleive I have the right to tell someone else they have to wear a helmet. It is a personal choice

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

and there you go....the SP can no longer count to 6 due to all the head injuries:roll:

There was a concussion victem the othernight at the end of Barneys Bumps..the kid was justing laying there on his back..and the ski patroller with his baseball hat was there to assist..:sad:

 

[campgottagopee]

There was a concussion victem the othernight at the end of Barneys Bumps..the kid was justing laying there on his back..and the ski patroller with his baseball hat was there to assist..:sad:

Isn't the important thing that he was there to help???

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Isn't the important thing that he was there to help???

Yeah..but maybe patrollers should be reps for helmet companys so when a kid gets a Concussion they can sell them a helmet..brilliant..

 

[campgottagopee]

Yeah..but maybe patrollers should be reps for helmet companys so when a kid gets a Concussion they can sell them a helmet..brilliant..

Always be sellin'----I dig it GSS

 

[Starter Jackets Rule!]

Freedom FROM Choice!
what a dumb question.
How bout the government make it THE LAW?
After all are they not here to save us from our selfs? whats next we have to wrap our self's in bubble wrap, every time we want to go and have some fun?
Do we don't fall down go boom?
or pop-pop-pop-POP!

 

[davidhowland14]

Freedom FROM Choice!
what a dumb question.
How bout the government make it THE LAW?
After all are they not here to save us from our selfs? whats next we have to wrap our self's in bubble wrap?
Do we don't fall down go boom?

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