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Pats Peak to Require Reservations

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I would think that relative to Pats' continued success through bad weather, staff shortages, etc that Vail might look at Crotched a bit more favorably, no? It's right down the street. From a competition POV keeping Crotched closed certain days midweek and not doing Midnight Madness lets Pats walk away with a clear win here. the reservation system just reinforces what was already clear this season.
 

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Not saying they'd be interested, but should Vail need to divest assets, it would be great for the state to contract with Pats to run Sunapee. They do such a great job. Even better if they did a 3 mountain pass of Pats, Sunapee and Cannon.
As you said with the Wildcat/Cannon idea for a pass, I’d buy a Cannon/Pats pass in a heartbeat. My wife loves Pats Peak and I love Cannon so it’s a win-win.
 

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I would think that relative to Pats' continued success through bad weather, staff shortages, etc that Vail might look at Crotched a bit more favorably, no? It's right down the street. From a competition POV keeping Crotched closed certain days midweek and not doing Midnight Madness lets Pats walk away with a clear win here. the reservation system just reinforces what was already clear this season.

Hard to say. Vail treats all of NH including Crotched as a balding red headed stepchild.
 

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I would think that relative to Pats' continued success through bad weather, staff shortages, etc that Vail might look at Crotched a bit more favorably, no? It's right down the street. From a competition POV keeping Crotched closed certain days midweek and not doing Midnight Madness lets Pats walk away with a clear win here. the reservation system just reinforces what was already clear this season.
I think that Vail only looks at the macro level and not the micro level.
 

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Maybe i'm in the minority, but i'd be pretty pissed if I bought a pass and then had to make a reservation to use it. The solution is to not oversell in the first place
 

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Maybe i'm in the minority, but i'd be pretty pissed if I bought a pass and then had to make a reservation to use it. The solution is to not oversell in the first place

The reservations at Pats for the weekends and Holidays the rest of this season is for day ticket purchasers only. Season pass holders won't need to make a reservation.

Reasonable to the passholder and maybe even a slight incentive for the weekender day ticket buyer who goes a few times a year to think about getting a pass, especially if Pats annouces that this will be their plan for next season as well
 

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The reservations at Pats for the weekends and Holidays the rest of this season is for day ticket purchasers only. Season pass holders won't need to make a reservation.

Reasonable to the passholder and maybe even a slight incentive for the weekender day ticket buyer who goes a few times a year to think about getting a pass, especially if Pats annouces that this will be their plan for next season as well

That makes sense, I was under the impression it would be for passholders...
 

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The reservations at Pats for the weekends and Holidays the rest of this season is for day ticket purchasers only. Season pass holders won't need to make a reservation.

Reasonable to the passholder and maybe even a slight incentive for the weekender day ticket buyer who goes a few times a year to think about getting a pass, especially if Pats annouces that this will be their plan for next season as well
This is what Highland Mountain does for biking in the summer. Limits ticket sales but you don’t need a reservation if you are a pass holder. Keeps the lines down and the product premium. As a pass holder, I love it.
 

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Not saying they'd be interested, but should Vail need to divest assets, it would be great for the state to contract with Pats to run Sunapee. They do such a great job. Even better if they did a 3 mountain pass of Pats, Sunapee and Cannon.
I hear you, but I think that the beauty of Pats Peak's management is that they understand their product and don't overextend themselves. I think going from one relatively small/medium ski area to two areas, one with two HSQ's, much more terrain, much more staff to manage, and more passholders and expectations, would be a big challenge to say the least.
 

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I hear you, but I think that the beauty of Pats Peak's management is that they understand their product and don't overextend themselves. I think going from one relatively small/medium ski area to two areas, one with two HSQ's, much more terrain, much more staff to manage, and more passholders and expectations, would be a big challenge to say the least.

You're probably right and there's definitely something to be said for keeping it one of the very few independent family owned mountains left. I'm glad they're on the Indy Pass so I can get a couple of days there with my young kids and I'm especially glad to have joined a race team for Wednesday nights. Super fun.
 

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You're probably right and there's definitely something to be said for keeping it one of the very few independent family owned mountains left. I'm glad they're on the Indy Pass so I can get a couple of days there with my young kids and I'm especially glad to have joined a race team for Wednesday nights. Super fun.
One can certainly hope and dream. They’re a class act. Sunapee folks deserve better than what they have now.
 
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