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Should ski patrollers be required to wear helmets???

Should ski patrollers be required to wear helmets..

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 50.6%
  • No

    Votes: 42 49.4%

  • Total voters
    85

abc

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It depends on whether the mountain provides helmet for them though.

If the mountain management say "here is your uniform for working here", which consist of a red jacket and a (maybe red?) helmet, I think it's alright. Anyone object to wearing the red jacket just can't be a patroller. Same goes for helmets.

If the mountain requires helmet without providing for it, I'd say NO! They'll have to find other sheeps who's willing to do it.
 

JasonE

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Yes, of course ski patrol should be required to wear helmets. It shouldn't just be a mountain rule, it should be a regulation of the NSP as well! I also think that all ski instructors should be required to wear helmets and any student in the ski school should have to wear a helmet.

Also, I am a firm believer that when mountains are developing their web sites or brochures, any photograph they are using should show only people wearing helmets. Mountains should not in any way, shape, or form be promoting skiing without a helmet. They can't require people to wear one, obviously, but they have total control over what they put on their web site or brochure and should not be using photos of people without helmets.

I recognize the fact that in a catastrophic crash a helmet probably won't save your life. However, in a more minor crash, it can mean the difference between getting up and skiing the rest of the day versus a trip in an ambulance. I think helmets should be promoted everywhere they can be, and required of anyone in a position of responsibility where they are dealing with the safety of the customers of a mountain.
 

Edd

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I don't care if they wear them as a customer but, if it were my mountain, they would be required to.

On a sidenote, it's odd to me that helmets aren't more common in ski magazine pictures. Ski, Skiing, and Powder all show photos with VERY few helmets featured....to the point where I wonder if it's intentional.
 
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I don't care if they wear them as a customer but, if it were my mountain, they would be required to.

On a sidenote, it's odd to me that helmets aren't more common in ski magazine pictures. Ski, Skiing, and Powder all show photos with VERY few helmets featured....to the point where I wonder if it's intentional.

take a look at the tgr/wmiller/mhead films.
notice the lack of brain buckets?
And the skiers in those films take 1,000 times the risk than ANY nsp person.
Ya,Nanny Nation,Freedom From Choice Wimps!
 

Beetlenut

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take a look at the tgr/wmiller/mhead films.
notice the lack of brain buckets?
And the skiers in those films take 1,000 times the risk than ANY nsp person.
Ya,Nanny Nation,Freedom From Choice Wimps!

Yea, ok rebel without a clue! The skiers in those films have mad skilz, most of the gapers on the slopes need all the protection they can get!
 

ctenidae

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People not wearing helmets is darwinism at its finest.

I have no problem with that.

I voted "No," but only because teh question is too vague. Should a particular mountain require its patrollers to wear helmets? Probably, to save on insurance costs, set an example, etc. Should there be a law requiring it? No.
 
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A victim of collision on the open sea
Nobody ever said that life was free
Sank, swam, go down with the ship
But use your freedom of choice

Ill say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Your freedom of choice

In ancient rome there was a poem
About a dog who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!

Then if you got it you dont want it
Seems to be the rule of thumb
Dont be tricked by what you see
You got two ways to go

Ill say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Freedom of choice

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!

In ancient rome
There was a poem
About a dog
Who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom from choice
Is what you want...
200px-DevoFreedomofChoice.jpg
 

Stache

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Ski instructors should definitely be required to wear helmets as well...along with the people who give tours..it's important..:idea:

Spoken (typed) by someone who obviously has never watched a beginner student (sans helmet) spook, freak, and then freeze up when the instructor donned their shiny black CRASH Helmet prior to beginning the lesson.

Time and place. Parks I have no problem with a helmet requirement, trees prolly a good idea, but dammit let me enjoy the GREAT out doors without wrapping myself in a bubble wrap suit with armored shin guards and arm guards and a bunch of other stuff. Might as well ride around in a snow cat with a tempreature controlled cab and air ride seat so you never feel the bumps.

PS Ski Instructors fall into the "Teacher" category and as such present a very low cost Workers Comp rate for the Mountain (legal loophole #247) even though that is where most of the claims come from. It also allows the Mountains (depending on state) to ignore minimum wage and other compensation laws and rules.
 

Stache

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Yes, of course ski patrol should be required to wear helmets. It shouldn't just be a mountain rule, it should be a regulation of the NSP as well! I also think that all ski instructors should be required to wear helmets and any student in the ski school should have to wear a helmet.

Also, I am a firm believer that when mountains are developing their web sites or brochures, any photograph they are using should show only people wearing helmets. Mountains should not in any way, shape, or form be promoting skiing without a helmet. They can't require people to wear one, obviously, but they have total control over what they put on their web site or brochure and should not be using photos of people without helmets.

I recognize the fact that in a catastrophic crash a helmet probably won't save your life. However, in a more minor crash, it can mean the difference between getting up and skiing the rest of the day versus a trip in an ambulance. I think helmets should be promoted everywhere they can be, and required of anyone in a position of responsibility where they are dealing with the safety of the customers of a mountain.

Didn't you say you worked for Giro??? Or was it Briko??
 

gmcunni

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was thinking about this thread yesterday while @ okemo. my informal count was about 66% of the folks wearing OKEMO and/or Ski Patrol jackets wore helmets. i dont think i saw an ski patrol without one, most of the official folks not wearing them were instructors.
 

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I believe in wearing my helmet and won't go without it, but I don't feel its my place to force others.

IMO its a personal choice, no matter the job.
 
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