Ski Resort Response to COVID-19

[1dog]

Didn't you know that Cuomo, Murphy, Baker, Scott, and all the other northeast governors get together every night on Zoom and have a big party drinking Champagne while laughing about all the new lockdowns and restrictions they plan to implement next?

Here's LA Mayor doing just. that: https://twitchy.com/doug-3137/2020/...i-explains-why-its-time-to-cancel-everything/


more fuel to the fire: https://rairfoundation.com/warning-...ated-gene-altering-coronavirus-vaccine-video/


Cliff Notes:

Coronavirus Mortality Rate Obscured

One of the most obvious points is that the vaccine is for an illness that has an incredibly low case fatality rate in Germany. “Among these 0 to 70 years, 0.7 percent died with and from COVID-19. 0.7 percent died,” he explains. But the real scandal is that these numbers are obscured from the public, in an apparant effort to make the disease appear more deadly than it actually is. Likewise, this author has looked for the mortality rate of the coronavirus in America by age and it is very difficult to find. “You won’t be able to find the answer, because you’ll only get an answer if you search the reports from the RKI [Robert Koch Institute] and calculate the number yourself.”

 

[NYDB]

I'm not surprised this thread has devolved into full on Covid Truther Territory. 3k deaths yesterday. Just the beginning. All a hoax.

And really, rairfoundation? Breitbart too liberal for you? Oann not giving you the rush it used to?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/pompeo...r-holiday-party-amid-covid-19-spike-1.5215143

I do agree our politicians seem not to be grasping the seriousness of the situation. Right / Left / Center. They seem to be not getting the severity of it from the top on down.

 

[deadheadskier]

A sad, but great overview of my world view comes in this 14 minute clip - sad because Walter passed yesterday at 84. He taught me a lot in the last 26 or so years I've followed him. You may not agree, but at least you'll see how half the country perceives the Statist State. Sad also because he thinks we may no longer believe we are the great country we ( are, were, hope to be).

PS his last column just happened to be posted yesterday as well - its full of facts - which is all he ever relied on.

Rest In Peace Mr. Williams

Is old Walt going to bury himself?

 

[icecoast1]

3k deaths yesterday. Just the beginning.

Largely due to lack of reporting over the holiday weekend. Testing/confirmed cases are going to be skewed as well

 

[KustyTheKlown]

yea, read something (maybe the atlantic?) yesterday that mentioned there's always a weekend lull and a Monday bump, but that it will be way skewed bc of the long holiday weekend

 

[Edd]

Largely due to lack of reporting over the holiday weekend. Testing/confirmed cases are going to be skewed as well

Sure but Thanksgiving gatherings = more cases. It’s a 2 + 2 = 4 deal.

 

[EPB]

Didn't you know that Cuomo, Murphy, Baker, Scott, and all the other northeast governors get together every night on Zoom and have a big party drinking Champagne while laughing about all the new lockdowns and restrictions they plan to implement next?

I must say, perhaps the most striking political/cultural shift since the mid 2000s is how the left went from branding themselves as the "cool" free speech/live and let live crowd to being the unapologetically authoritarian crowd.

 

[1dog]

NYT Report on VT: Facilities Cases Deaths % of total elder care facilities

Vermont

8

209

33

49%

None of this is good news, but to attempt to control the 750K residents and X # of visitors? Because of 33 deaths and half in elder care facilities? That's tyranny coming soon to a ski area near you.
Ii truly believe most people on both sides are trying to do the right thing. That would include everyone on this forum - contributors anyway. The small % that is taking advantage of the crisis. . . different story. Who said ' never let a crisis go to waste'? Believe it was the' highly effective' former mayor of Chicago . .

EPB - complete tolerance . . .as long as you agree with them. Otherwise, shut down.

 

[1dog]

Is old Walt going to bury himself?

Agree or disagree?

“Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man.” -- Walter E. Williams

"Despite the miracles of capitalism, it doesn't do well in popularity polls. One of the reasons is that capitalism is always evaluated against the non-existent utopias of socialism or communism. Any earthly system pales in comparison to utopias. But for the ordinary person, capitalism, with all of its warts, is superior to any system yet devised to deal with our everyday needs and desires." - Walter Williams

 

[EPB]

Agree or disagree?

“Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man.” -- Walter E. Williams

"Despite the miracles of capitalism, it doesn't do well in popularity polls. One of the reasons is that capitalism is always evaluated against the non-existent utopias of socialism or communism. Any earthly system pales in comparison to utopias. But for the ordinary person, capitalism, with all of its warts, is superior to any system yet devised to deal with our everyday needs and desires." - Walter Williams

I appreciate the enthusiasm. Believe me, I love capitalism as much as the next guy, but this is off topic even for a guy like me who likes do digress. I know it's not my role to say this necessarily, but I'm unfamiliar with Walter Williams, DHS's comment didn't make any sense to me, and I feel like this thing could get wayyyy off topic soon.

 

[deadheadskier]

Agree or disagree?

“Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man.” -- Walter E. Williams

"Despite the miracles of capitalism, it doesn't do well in popularity polls. One of the reasons is that capitalism is always evaluated against the non-existent utopias of socialism or communism. Any earthly system pales in comparison to utopias. But for the ordinary person, capitalism, with all of its warts, is superior to any system yet devised to deal with our everyday needs and desires." - Walter Williams

Partially

It's not so black and white as old Walt tries to make it.

 

[1dog]

I appreciate the enthusiasm. Believe me, I love capitalism as much as the next guy, but this is off topic even for a guy like me who likes do digress. I know it's not my role to say this necessarily, but I'm unfamiliar with Walter Williams, DHS's comment didn't make any sense to me, and I feel like this thing could get wayyyy off topic soon.

happy to re-direct. Covid as it relates to VT - today thru the 13th of Dec should give us a good indicator of the spread during holiday week. As long as we trust testing, hospital counts, and deaths. Morbid, but it that's what affects our passions to be on the hills and in the woods.
Anyone plan on skiing this weekend? Snow forecast has dwindled on NOAA site.

 

[drjeff]

I did notice that as of yesterday, VT finally started reporting the antigen test results and "presumed" positive cases as opposed to just the PCR positive tests that they have done all along up until now.

Not sure what to make of the change in reporting by the VT Dept of Health on this right now

 

[tumbler]

I did notice that as of yesterday, VT finally started reporting the antigen test results and "presumed" positive cases as opposed to just the PCR positive tests that they have done all along up until now.

Not sure what to make of the change in reporting by the VT Dept of Health on this right now

I think to show the worst case to justify their regulations that I feel will be increasing. I have a very bad feeling about skiing that gets worse every day...

 

[VTKilarney]

I think to show the worst case to justify their regulations that I feel will be increasing. I have a very bad feeling about skiing that gets worse every day...

Thanks to the new "presumed" positive metric, Vermont just blew its one day record out of the water.

 

[1dog]

I think to show the worst case to justify their regulations that I feel will be increasing. I have a very bad feeling about skiing that gets worse every day...

I had same take - until I went to Killington day after T Day - had my negative test results, utility bill w my name in it from VT, and in case none of those worked, took my MD friend to illustrate to the sheriff I had not only my physicians permission, but he's right here in the back seat to verify I'm ok!

Had no trouble on lifts or in line. Not super crowded, soft snow, drizzly, but a great 1st day out. I'm hoping that is the norm, not the complete shut down that some want us to have - like 'Sarah'.

 

[Edd]

I had same take - until I went to Killington day after T Day - had my negative test results, utility bill w my name in it from VT, and in case none of those worked, took my MD friend to illustrate to the sheriff I had not only my physicians permission, but he's right here in the back seat to verify I'm ok!

Had no trouble on lifts or in line. Not super crowded, soft snow, drizzly, but a great 1st day out. I'm hoping that is the norm, not the complete shut down that some want us to have - like 'Sarah'.

Are you and your personal physician in agreement about mask effectiveness? Don’t get the Sarah reference but guessing that’s political somehow.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

see sugarbush thread. sarah was an overbearing xenophobic vermonter going wild in a mad river valley youtube Q&A thing

 

[1dog]

Are you and your personal physician in agreement about mask effectiveness? Don’t get the Sarah reference but guessing that’s political somehow.

Doc more than I am, but I wear them out of respect for those living in fear - and to comply with local and state regulations. ( Same with the 65-70MPH speed limit )
Sarah - sorry - that was from another string on here - MRV Chamber video Zoom where this woman Sarah - a 'Karen' went on and on about how no one should go anywhere ever - especially Mad River Valley. I'm not that sharp as you can see.

 

[cdskier]

Are you and your personal physician in agreement about mask effectiveness? Don’t get the Sarah reference but guessing that’s political somehow.

see sugarbush thread. sarah was an overbearing xenophobic vermonter going wild in a mad river valley youtube Q&A thing

Yup...Sarah is convinced that resorts shouldn't open at all this year and was continually asking Sugarbush and MRG's GMs how they could possibly justify opening this year and "inviting outsiders to VT".