Snowmaking at Killington

[andyzee]

K made good progress last night. I am headed home around noon and will have some pics up be 5 or so.

Tease

 

[bvibert]

Tease

No kidding!

 

[andyzee]

No kidding!

So how you doing with your video? :lol:

 

[bvibert]

So how you doing with your video? :lol:

:smash:

 

[andyzee]

:smash:

I see that's the problem, you'r using a hammer. Try some software like moviemaker or studio.

 

[bvibert]

DOH! You're right. I tried hammering the tape into the DVD slot on the computer. Now the tape is all screwed up. Think there's anyway to recover it??

 

[danny p]

some nice pics of snowmaking this morning on the k website.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

I can't believe the all evil Powdr is making snow :wink:

 

[ski_resort_observer]

We've had this discussion before. It's almost definitely legal, they have no power to stop you from hiking I believe, but they won't clarify that because they don't really like it. (By they, I mean management, the snowmakers and employees don't mind a bit.)

Not exactly true. Since most resorts in the east are a combination of leased federal land, state land and private land, including kmart it's alot more complicated. Alot of folks think the Bush is on Green Mountain National Forest...part is. Slide Basin is mostly owned by the resort but the USFS bear habitat section is smack in the middle of it so that's why the Bush has to comply with some very sticky regulations.

Even if your hiking up a trail on leased USFS land and the resort is open, they can ask you to leave. If your postholing up a trail you should be shot and the ski patrol has little tolarance of that....rightfully so.

It depends on the resort and even the mood of the patroller and how you act that can effect the situation. If you want to earn your turns, do it before the resort opens, don't posthole and enjoy. If the resort is open, it's a crapshoot on whether or not you will be hassled. This sounds silly but calling the resort to find out what their policy might be is the best way to avoid hassles.

Even in the summer any resort that leases land from the feds there are regulations that the resort has to comply with and if too many people are using off limit areas, for example, the USFS will come down on the resort possibly effecting their permits for the future.

 

[Mark D]

Not exactly true. Since most resorts in the east are a combination of leased federal land, state land and private land, including kmart it's alot more complicated. Alot of folks think the Bush is on Green Mountain National Forest...part is. Slide Basin is mostly owned by the resort but the USFS bear habitat section is smack in the middle of it so that's why the Bush has to comply with some very sticky regulations.

Even if your hiking up a trail on leased USFS land and the resort is open, they can ask you to leave. If your postholing up a trail you should be shot and the ski patrol has little tolarance of that....rightfully so.

It depends on the resort and even the mood of the patroller and how you act that can effect the situation. If you want to earn your turns, do it before the resort opens, don't posthole and enjoy. If the resort is open, it's a crapshoot on whether or not you will be hassled. This sounds silly but calling the resort to find out what their policy might be is the best way to avoid hassles.

Even in the summer any resort that leases land from the feds there are regulations that the resort has to comply with and if too many people are using off limit areas, for example, the USFS will come down on the resort possibly effecting their permits for the future.

I try to tread lightly. but i'm gonna find out about it today. I'm leaving in about an hour to go earn some!

GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!

 

[andyzee]

I try to tread lightly. but i'm gonna find out about it today. I'm leaving in about an hour to go earn some!

GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry about it, I guarentee that no one will bother you. Enjoy!

 

[SpinmasterK]

We've had this discussion before. It's almost definitely legal, they have no power to stop you from hiking I believe, but they won't clarify that because they don't really like it. (By they, I mean management, the snowmakers and employees don't mind a bit.)

Actually, we ask that folks stay off the mountain when we're not open for skiing/riding. At this time we have quite a bit of activity underway, including snowmaking, lift operations, mowing, etc.

 

[Greg]

Thanks for the info, Tom:

http://news.alpinezone.com/19208/

 

[snoseek]

shhhhhhhh....stealth.

 

[tcharron]

DOH! You're right. I tried hammering the tape into the DVD slot on the computer. Now the tape is all screwed up. Think there's anyway to recover it??

OMG! That could break the coffee cup holder!

 

[millerm277]

Actually, we ask that folks stay off the mountain when we're not open for skiing/riding. At this time we have quite a bit of activity underway, including snowmaking, lift operations, mowing, etc.

That seems to indicate that you don't have the power to keep people off the mountain.

I've never seen any of your employees get mad about people hiking up, and there really is no reason to. If someone is dedicated enough to hike, I think they're smart enough to not run into your snowmaking hose. (especially since, as of right now, there are no guns out in the middle of the trails). I do understand that your insurance might not be thrilled with you saying "go on and hike, we don't mind".

 

[riverc0il]

I can fully understand the request considering the amount of activity on the hill. Whenever earning pre or post season turns when a resort is not open, always be respectful of on hill activity. Stay away from the snow makers, stick to the side of the trail, yield to machines, etc. and keep it low key. It most certainly is not strictly legal even on public land that is leased, so head instructions from mountain employees if they tell you to go somewhere else. All that said, I certainly don't think most areas mind the publicity. But they are certainly well within their rights to restrict access.

 

[andyzee]

I can fully understand the request considering the amount of activity on the hill. Whenever earning pre or post season turns when a resort is not open, always be respectful of on hill activity. Stay away from the snow makers, stick to the side of the trail, yield to machines, etc. and keep it low key. It most certainly is not strictly legal even on public land that is leased, so head instructions from mountain employees if they tell you to go somewhere else. All that said, I certainly don't think most areas mind the publicity. But they are certainly well within their rights to restrict access.

Request is the magic word here, that's all it is. However Steve, I will agree with you, be respectful and stay out of the way.

 

[millerm277]

But they are certainly well within their rights to restrict access.

I do not believe they are, and I believe they are only allowed to charge for/control the use of K's facilities. Obviously, that wouldn't make something like messing with K's equipment legal, but I'm pretty sure that it is perfectly legal to hike the mountain whenever you want. They would state that its not allowed if they could.

 

[riverc0il]

I do not believe they are, and I believe they are only allowed to charge for/control the use of K's facilities. Obviously, that wouldn't make something like messing with K's equipment legal, but I'm pretty sure that it is perfectly legal to hike the mountain whenever you want. They would state that its not allowed if they could.

We have been through this ad nauseum in the past and they would be completely within their rights to restrict hiking on the ski trails. Not the mountain itself but they certainly can restrict access to facilities and trails under their management.