Soft tip, stiff tail, ~80 underfoot park ski

[mondeo]

Is there a good one? Looking to leave my bump skis up in VT this year and have a pair of skis pretty much just for Sundown. I'll probably split time about 50/50 between park and bumps there, so I figure a narrowish park ski with a flex pattern more consistent with a bump ski would be good. Trouble is actually figuring out what park skis have what flex, seems like the only people that review them are jibhonks with different priorities than bumps, and the narrow park skis tend to be more intermediate skier biased.

 

[Beetlenut]

Is there a good one? Looking to leave my bump skis up in VT this year and have a pair of skis pretty much just for Sundown. I'll probably split time about 50/50 between park and bumps there, so I figure a narrowish park ski with a flex pattern more consistent with a bump ski would be good. Trouble is actually figuring out what park skis have what flex, seems like the only people that review them are jibhonks with different priorities than bumps, and the narrow park skis tend to be more intermediate skier biased.

Sounds more like a slalom ski from the 80's. Rossi 7S anyone?

 

[Hawkshot99]

I do not know how soft/stiff you want this ski to be.

The Scott P3 i feel is pretty close to what you have decribed. The tails are stiff enough for me to be able to lean back on them and pop out of turns. When skiing heavy crud, I see the fronts getting bent around more than other skiis I use. The 178 that i ski is 82 underfoot. The 168 is 80 underfoot.

 

[mondeo]

Soft enough to push it into the frontside of a bump without it pushing back too hard, stiff enough so when I'm backseat it can pop me back forward pretty quickly.

 

[Glenn]

I've got a pair of Dynastar Nothing But Troubles that I use all mountain and in the park. I have them mounted a bit more forward than a traditional mount...but certainly not a true "center mount".

I found the skis do very well in the moguls. I think the mount helps; I find that the bindings being a bit more forwards allow for quicker initiation of turns. I think they're a 75mm at the waist.

As far as flex...I dunno. I got these things from evogearoutlet last fall for a whopping $130 IIRC. I threw in a set of Dynastar Bindings (NX or PX clones) for aother $140 or so? Not a bad deal delivered. Gotta love new old stock.

Now I just a big biggy ass Charlie Brown shirt and I can kick it wit da Sundown Krew....

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Now I just a big biggy ass Charlie Brown shirt and I can kick it wit da Sundown Krew....

I'm definitely getting a jibhonk jacket this season..I see alot of park rats on Rossi Scratches..which I have and they are soft enough for butter but stiff enough..just barely for rippin..they would definitely be under $200..

 

[bigbog]

Has some mention of a few new park skis

It is Powder mag's...ie powskis, but some manufacturers' clips have a new park ski in addition..
Powder Mag's online promos (the "2010 Choices", amidst all the other clutter)

$.01

 

[powbmps]

Mondeo,

I've got a pair of 184 Scott P3's (118/84/108 17m radius) that I was thinking of getting rid of. They are the older black top sheet but only have about 10 days total on them. Had the bases worked on prior to last season. Used them for maybe 4 days, but found some nice rocks, so they need a little more work . They are mounted with Rossi Axial 120's for a size 26.5 Krypton (306mm?).

From 2007 Freeskier:

MSRP: $475 Stoke: 7

Jumps: 8 Pipe: 7

Playfulness: 7 All-Mountain: 8

The P3 is much more at home in the park than other Scott sticks. Built with a sandwich core construction, the P3 provides pop and stability at the same time. Our bigger testers overwhelmingly found it more fun than our smaller guys due to its fairly stiff flex pattern. Those who were able to ride this ski happily found it to be poppy and were able to “cruise switch with no problem.”

 

[Highway Star]

Is this going to be the widest ski you own...?

 

[deadheadskier]

pretty certain he has Watea 94 as well

 

[mondeo]

Is this going to be the widest ski you own...?

This:

pretty certain he has Watea 94 as well

Just looking for a ski for Sundown, so I can leave my good skis in VT. They'll live a depressing existence, likely never leaving CT, therefore not needing any real float.

 

[severine]

I've got a pair of Dynastar Nothing But Troubles that I use all mountain and in the park. I have them mounted a bit more forward than a traditional mount...but certainly not a true "center mount".

I found the skis do very well in the moguls. I think the mount helps; I find that the bindings being a bit more forwards allow for quicker initiation of turns. I think they're a 75mm at the waist.

As far as flex...I dunno. I got these things from evogearoutlet last fall for a whopping $130 IIRC. I threw in a set of Dynastar Bindings (NX or PX clones) for aother $140 or so? Not a bad deal delivered. Gotta love new old stock.

Now I just a big biggy ass Charlie Brown shirt and I can kick it wit da Sundown Krew....

I have the Dynastar Marie Martinod Pros which are a women's version of pretty much the same ski... 78mm waist. Also have Look NX 10 (IIRC) bindings on them. Cheap on eBay. I am obviously NOT a mogul expert but they did well in them for me... better than my Joyriders, that's for sure. LOVE those skis. The only thing they're not so fun on is ice. I know one of the Divas went to a mogul clinic last summer and they were told that it's actually a pretty good ski for moguls.

Just my 2 cents... which is probably worth less.

ETA: Here's the thread I was thinking of on Ski Diva discussing these in moguls:
http://theskidiva.com/forums/showpost.php?p=66278&postcount=15

And here's the whole thread:
http://theskidiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4642&highlight=Marie

 

[Glenn]

I have the Dynastar Marie Martinod Pros which are a women's version of pretty much the same ski... 78mm waist. Also have Look NX 10 (IIRC) bindings on them. Cheap on eBay. I am obviously NOT a mogul expert but they did well in them for me... better than my Joyriders, that's for sure. LOVE those skis. The only thing they're not so fun on is ice. I know one of the Divas went to a mogul clinic last summer and they were told that it's actually a pretty good ski for moguls.

Just my 2 cents... which is probably worth less.

ETA: Here's the thread I was thinking of on Ski Diva discussing these in moguls:
http://theskidiva.com/forums/showpost.php?p=66278&postcount=15

And here's the whole thread:
http://theskidiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4642&highlight=Marie

How did you find the factory tune on them? The waxjob was "meh", but man, the edges were razor sharp. Again, maybe it was a bit of the forward mount, but they held an edge pretty well. I will give them a shot on the boiler plate this year though.

I agree, I like the skis a lot. I find I can have a lot of fun with them around the entire mountain.

 

[severine]

How did you find the factory tune on them? The waxjob was "meh", but man, the edges were razor sharp. Again, maybe it was a bit of the forward mount, but they held an edge pretty well. I will give them a shot on the boiler plate this year though.

I agree, I like the skis a lot. I find I can have a lot of fun with them around the entire mountain.

It's been a while since but I don't think the wax job was all that great from the factory. Edges were pretty good. I have a tendency to only tune once to twice per season and they still worked great for me (though they probably should have had more wax that first season I used them). I have mine slightly forward-mounted and love them. I'm actually getting rid of my semi-"carver" skis (which I thought I needed for boilerplate) and keeping these as "all-mountain" instead. A lot of fun. I bet they'd be even better if I kept them tuned.

 

[Glenn]

I'm going to try these out in more conditions this year. I'd actually like to take them into the woods and see how they do.

 

[Highway Star]

Can't go wrong with the Dynastar Troublemaker.....should be able to find a deal on a pair.

 

[NESkibum]

Dynastar Trouble Maker would be the way to go.