Steepest trail in the East

[Glenn]

Waterfall an the former Mt. Tom. OMG!

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[Greg]

If a trail needs edges, the good skiing is somewhere else....

:lol: Well said.

 

[bvibert]

If a trail needs edges, the good skiing is somewhere else....

:lol: Well said.

Agreed, I like that philosophy!

 

[SkiDork]

What degree steepness is that..800 vert over the length of 3/10th of a mile..(1500+ feet) would be over 50%..but I'm not good at converting that into degrees..it might be too steep for a decent bump run

Read the rest of the post - already calculated

SIN X = 800/1584

X = ~30 degrees

 

[riverc0il]

I recall there being steeper than 30 degrees in the east... perhaps that is not sustained but steepest pitch? Too lazy to dig up the thread.

 

[bvibert]

I recall there being steeper than 30 degrees in the east... perhaps that is not sustained but steepest pitch? Too lazy to dig up the thread.

IIRC there has been more than one thread, complete with every type of calculation and map manipulation that you could possibly imagine, on the subject.

 

[deadheadskier]

IIRC there has been more than one thread, complete with every type of calculation and map manipulation that you could possibly imagine, on the subject.

you mean, someone has started a steepest trail in the east thread before?

damn, I was thinking of posting one :lol:

 

[mondeo]

Outer Limits is a sustained ~30° from O.L. Express at the top to where it flattens out at the bottom. Judging from 3dskimaps.com, lower Ovation gets to about 38°, and comparing it to O.L., probably is sustained 35°. Only for a few hundred feet, but more than the 30 feet suggested earlier. The Fiddle is between the two in length and steepness. From what I remember, there's a decent number of other runs in the East with sustained ~30° pitches, I just have no experience with them.

Of course, the Killington runs are all about 20x wider than this one.

 

[kcyanks1]

Here's some I took about a month age. I think even Greg would say this is "legit terrain". ;-)

Oh, I don't doubt it's legit terrain. I just have some doubts that it is the "steepest" in the east, as the subject indicates. I can have plenty of fun on trails other than the steepest trail in the east. I hope to get to ski it soon.

 

[kcyanks1]

Why? If they make snow on it, it will obviously be open alot more.

Man-made snow is icier. Also, how often are snowmaking trails left ungroomed? Normally you have to groom out the newly made snow I would think.

 

[crank]

It may seem that way if you dont know where youa re going. Lots of intermediates say that

I've skied everything there except for the slides and only remember 1 or 2 runs that were not groomers. So what do they leave alone these days. I haven't been in a few years, but I haven't been an intermediate for a lot longer than that.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

gawd damn...I'd need someone to belay me on that trail! Hahaha looks sweet, I love double fall lines...HPD you'll have to give me the tour...if I ever get way the hell over there.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

gawd damn...I'd need someone to belay me on that trail! Hahaha looks sweet, I love double fall lines...HPD you'll have to give me the tour...if I ever get way the hell over there.

You get over here and I'll also comp your ticket (if you need one) and buy the beer after.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Man-made snow is icier. Also, how often are snowmaking trails left ungroomed? Normally you have to groom out the newly made snow I would think.

I'm guessing you've skied Empire. A great, classic trail without snowmaking. It's an event when it's open which is great, but I'd rather ski Lookout Below on a regular basis.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

You get over here and I'll also comp your ticket (if you need one) and buy the beer after.

That's a helluva deal...I'm going to have to come up with a work related excuse to get there.

 

[tjf67]

I've skied everything there except for the slides and only remember 1 or 2 runs that were not groomers. So what do they leave alone these days. I haven't been in a few years, but I haven't been an intermediate for a lot longer than that.

depends when things get out of hand they mow stuff down. Cloud, lower sky, Upper and lower mac. Empire. Sky you can always ski in the trees along the trail. tons of places

 

[tjf67]

Outer Limits is a sustained ~30° from O.L. Express at the top to where it flattens out at the bottom. Judging from 3dskimaps.com, lower Ovation gets to about 38°, and comparing it to O.L., probably is sustained 35°. Only for a few hundred feet, but more than the 30 feet suggested earlier. The Fiddle is between the two in length and steepness. From what I remember, there's a decent number of other runs in the East with sustained ~30° pitches, I just have no experience with them.

Of course, the Killington runs are all about 20x wider than this one.

I hve been on OL a coupel of times. NEXT

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Looks like fun!

Definitely not the steepest, but there is some serious pitch for some decent vert! Now if only they got 300" of natural.............

 

[kcyanks1]

I'm guessing you've skied Empire. A great, classic trail without snowmaking. It's an event when it's open which is great, but I'd rather ski Lookout Below on a regular basis.

Yeah, I skied Empire once. Definitely a fantastic trail that I'd love to do again. Though it's rarely open, so I do understand your point about snowmaking helping. I guess it comes down to having a trail open less often but being more fun when it is open, or more open and less fun when it is open. If Lookout Below is southern (of some sort) exposure, than I can imagine that causing more problems and having it be open less than Empire. Perhaps they can blow a base early on and then not touch it the rest of the season.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

The trail is pretty much...you fall..you die steep..quadruple black diamond..I hope they station ski patrol at the top weed out the pros from the wannabes..