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Stowe, Killington, or Whiteface - total package?

moguler6

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From your description and choices, I'd say Killington. Stowe is my favorite eastern ski area, but the quad and gondi at Stowe on the weekends can be crazy, mid week I'd say yes. I'm an Ice Face hater, so what about the vert, especially when its broken up by two lifts. You'll get long runs, but there are not many options on the way down. I went there one weekend a year for 9 years, every single time it was insanely cold and icy and I never skied anything there that made me want to go back. Only thing that got me there was I had to compete, now that I don't compete, I'll never be back.

It would add another 3 hours to your drive, but Tremblant could fit the bill. Tons of groomed cruisers, a pedestrian village with night life, and Montreal is close by with tons of night life.
 

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Depends on what you mean by "nightlife", cuz the good skiing and cheaper prices in lodging, no reservations needed = finding the snow....are midweek...Whiteface, Bush, MRG, Smugglers, Jay, Magic, Stowe, Killington, Burke, Sugarloaf(ME), the River..You Can find great companionship midweek...but a percentage of the weekend crowd is essentially up FOR the bar scene...so it's a "numbers game"...more people up = more bar scene.(Maybe kind of old-fashioned analysis....though..;-))

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From your description and choices, I'd say Killington. Stowe is my favorite eastern ski area, but the quad and gondi at Stowe on the weekends can be crazy, mid week I'd say yes. I'm an Ice Face hater, so what about the vert, especially when its broken up by two lifts. You'll get long runs, but there are not many options on the way down. I went there one weekend a year for 9 years, every single time it was insanely cold and icy and I never skied anything there that made me want to go back. Only thing that got me there was I had to compete, now that I don't compete, I'll never be back.

It would add another 3 hours to your drive, but Tremblant could fit the bill. Tons of groomed cruisers, a pedestrian village with night life, and Montreal is close by with tons of night life.

Sucks you had bad experiences. When the racers come to town they dont know where to ski so I can understand where your frustration comes from.
 

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Sucks you had bad experiences. When the racers come to town they dont know where to ski so I can understand where your frustration comes from.

I was a bumper and other than our course, I always felt the place was groomed flat. I will admit, the new expanded terrain looks tempting and I've always wanted to ski the slides. We did always have fun in Lake Placid at night. :beer:
 

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Here is the Pickle Barrel event list:
http://www.picklebarrelnightclub.com/concerts-events/

Here is the Wobbly Barn event list:
http://www.wobblybarn.net/site/entertainment/events/index.html

Here is the Rusty Nail:
http://rustynailbar.com/site/index.php/home/events.html

Here is the Matterhorn:
http://www.matterhornbar.com/newsite/music.asp

I don't think "on par" is an appropriate comparison

Looks like things have changed some over the years. Back when I lived in Stowe, the Rusty Nail had a far more impressive live music schedule than anywhere in VT except for Higher Ground in Burlington. Bobby Roberts sold the RN as I was leaving town, so that might have something to do with it.

I'm not discrediting the K scene by any means.
 
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But, if I lived in Maryland, most of my skiing would be in Utah.

*sigh* a boy can dream...hahaha.

i've priced a lot of trips from BWI to both UT and VT...and I can never seem to find a comparable UT trip (# of nights, type of accomodations and actual # of days on the mountain) that isn't close to 2x the VT trip. the biggest problem is that you almost always need an extra night in UT to get the same number of days on the mountain.

a late flight out of burlington still allows you to ski most of the last day...you give up the getaway day when you go west...

yes the snow is pretty much guaranteed to be waaay better in UT, but for us intermediate flatlanders who are lucky to get 10-12 days per year on a hill, it usually comes down to a quantity over quality decision...and then pray to get a freshie day during your trip.
 

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take last flight out BWI to SLC
get shuttle to Park City
get the silver pass and ski DV, PC and Canyons, you dont need a car in Park City
take red eye home, get a full day skiing in as well

if you must go to VT, then home base it at Killington, you have Pico and Sugarbush about 45 min up the road...has everything you are looking for
 

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*sigh* a boy can dream...hahaha.

i've priced a lot of trips from BWI to both UT and VT...and I can never seem to find a comparable UT trip (# of nights, type of accomodations and actual # of days on the mountain) that isn't close to 2x the VT trip. the biggest problem is that you almost always need an extra night in UT to get the same number of days on the mountain.

a late flight out of burlington still allows you to ski most of the last day...you give up the getaway day when you go west...

yes the snow is pretty much guaranteed to be waaay better in UT, but for us intermediate flatlanders who are lucky to get 10-12 days per year on a hill, it usually comes down to a quantity over quality decision...and then pray to get a freshie day during your trip.

With the proximity to the skiing from the airport at SLC, I'm not sure I believe that. I don't know BWI flight schedules but from Boston, you can catch a 5pm flight to Utah after work and trivially catch first chair the next morning. On your last day, you can take the 5:05pm flight back to Boston skiing just about the whole day. The rental car return is in the airport garage so you don't have to budget much slack time. Snowbird to the airport is only 45 minutes. You can easily ski until 3:00. The return flight lands in Boston at 11:38 pm so you can get a full night of sleep and be in the office fully functional in the morning with a big grin.
 

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Stowe or Killington. Stowe is more of what you would picture a New England ski town. Very picturesque. Good bars too. The nightlife at Killington (for your needs) would edge out Stowe, however. Skiing at Stowe is better. Take your pick. Actually....just go to Stowe, the Matterhorn will take care of all your drinking needs.
 

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Looks like things have changed some over the years. Back when I lived in Stowe, the Rusty Nail had a far more impressive live music schedule than anywhere in VT except for Higher Ground in Burlington. Bobby Roberts sold the RN as I was leaving town, so that might have something to do with it.

I'm not discrediting the K scene by any means.

Absolutely true. Rim Rocks now gets good local music. Seth Yakavone used to play there tuesday nights. I lived accross the steet and would be litereally 1 of maybe 3 people there. (that's actually my definition of a good bar and music scene. A bunch of other really good local acts play (2 years ago) there. Pie Casso is also a big apres joint, but in general, local chics have a string of dudes on them and they are not interested in you unless you have good weed, a fish 56, a little coke, and a B mer. Stowe tourst scene (what these guys are looking for) is older rich folks. When young out of towners show up at the bars, they are despised and rejected. If you are staing at top notch, and can drop a shitload at the bar or club (nail), you may bag a cougar. Killington is where your people go, the Mtn will seem huge and good to you, and the bars will be full of folks you can relate to. Or go out west. Tahoe. Whistler. Vail. SLC.
 

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Unless you're looking to party apres ski. In that case, Utah is not exactly the best choice.

For intermediates, Park City certainly has plenty of apres ski to go with those jillion acres of groomers. Most of the Utah destination visits go there, not the no-tell motel in Midvale taking the bus up to AltaBird or Brighton/Solitude.
 

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Flying out west to ski groomers for twice the cost? Does not compute. A groomer is a groomer....

You guys will do great at Killington. Go have a good time.
 

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i guess i should have put a caveat on my bwi to UT scenario...i need a realstic itinerary with 2 kids under 10. can't exactly do red-eyes both ways...and expect to remain sane and married...haha.

sorry,btw, to derail the original post...
 

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i guess i should have put a caveat on my bwi to UT scenario...i need a realstic itinerary with 2 kids under 10. can't exactly do red-eyes both ways...and expect to remain sane and married...haha.

sorry,btw, to derail the original post...


Do you research. See you at whiteface. Its your best option. Stowe the town is boring. K is a freak fest.

Whiteface has 80 different res and bars to choose from. 2 pods for beginners and lots of blue runs. With the weather we have been having I have heard report of no ice on the hill.

On a side note I saw the NYSEFF bumpers heading down 87 this morning going to a competition at mount snow. kaspers kids are going to kick everones arse. 8)
 

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Stowe or Killington. Stowe is more of what you would picture a New England ski town. Very picturesque. Good bars too. The nightlife at Killington (for your needs) would edge out Stowe, however. Skiing at Stowe is better. Take your pick. Actually....just go to Stowe, the Matterhorn will take care of all your drinking needs.
Qft.
 
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