Sugarloaf Announces Terrain Expansion to Burnt Mountain and 10-year Development Plan

[SpinmasterK]

What do you want to bet that Killington somehow expands it's acreage before Sugarloaf can claim largest in the east?

Great marketing claim on behalf of Sugarloaf. However, Killington Resort is still the largest ski area in the East and a lot can happen between now and when Phase 3 of their expansion plans are complete.

 

[SpinmasterK]

No, Killington's "official" skiable acres is around 700+, while sugarloaf's is 600 or so.

Killington:
752 skiable acres, 600 acres snowmaking coverage
http://www.killington.com/winter/mountain/mountain_info/resort_info/index.html

Sugarloaf:
Website claims 921 acres, but contradicts with 95 percent snowmaking coverage on 490 acres.
http://www.sugarloaf.com/TheMountain/index.html

I just got off the phone with an AP reporter in Portland who said a Sugarloaf representative told him they have 651 skiable acres

Sugarloaf also claims 1,670 acres boundary to boundary acres. Killington has 3,000+ acres of boundary to boundary terrain!

 

[St. Bear]

Great marketing claim on behalf of Sugarloaf. However, Killington Resort is still the largest ski area in the East and a lot can happen between now and when Phase 3 of their expansion plans are complete.

This is like arguing over breast size. Do you go with bust measurement, or cup size? In the end we all win, does it really matter?

 

[deadheadskier]

Whiteface is actually the biggest ski area in the east

 

[Mapnut]

Sugarloaf would be bigger than Killington, the way Los Angeles is bigger than New York. Maybe you could make a similar comparison of night life, which Killington and New York would win. But after that, asking which area has better skiing would be like asking which city has better food.

Hmmm, not sure that makes any sense but since I wrote it I'll post it.

 

[Riverskier]

Killington:
752 skiable acres, 600 acres snowmaking coverage
http://www.killington.com/winter/mountain/mountain_info/resort_info/index.html

Sugarloaf:
Website claims 921 acres, but contradicts with 95 percent snowmaking coverage on 490 acres.
http://www.sugarloaf.com/TheMountain/index.html

I just got off the phone with an AP reporter in Portland who said a Sugarloaf representative told him they have 651 skiable acres

Sugarloaf also claims 1,670 acres boundary to boundary acres. Killington has 3,000+ acres of boundary to boundary terrain!

651 acres was accurate prior to the new 270 acre Bracket Basin Glade set to open this Winter. Therefore the 921 is now the correct figure.

 

[Smellytele]

Do we count traversing as skiable acres?

 

[Riverskier]

Is it too late to build the Killington-Pico interconnect this year....??

I hope not, or else it looks like there is a new Beast of the East. Sugarloaf already took the late season crown and now they have the most skiable acres.

 

[WWF-VT]

Killington:

I just got off the phone with an AP reporter in Portland who said a Sugarloaf representative told him they have 651 skiable acres

Sugarloaf also claims 1,670 acres boundary to boundary acres. Killington has 3,000+ acres of boundary to boundary terrain!

Saw this from AP

"Killington Resort in Vermont is the biggest ski area east of the Rockies, with 752 skiable acres. A spokesman says it's known as the Beast of the East because it has the most skier visits, most lifts, most trails, most miles of trails of any resort in the region and, for now, the most skiable acreage."

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

Killington:
752 skiable acres, 600 acres snowmaking coverage
http://www.killington.com/winter/mountain/mountain_info/resort_info/index.html

Sugarloaf:
Website claims 921 acres, but contradicts with 95 percent snowmaking coverage on 490 acres.
http://www.sugarloaf.com/TheMountain/index.html

I just got off the phone with an AP reporter in Portland who said a Sugarloaf representative told him they have 651 skiable acres

Sugarloaf also claims 1,670 acres boundary to boundary acres. Killington has 3,000+ acres of boundary to boundary terrain!

Hmmmmm

 

[wa-loaf]

Tool

That's a little harsh, but SpinmasterLame should come back when (or if) Killington has something exciting to announce. We all know the skiable acres is marketing bs, so it's stupid to argue about it.

 

[Puck it]

Tool

Just wrong. The guy is doing what he is paid to do.

 

[deadheadskier]

Tool

uncalled for

That's a little harsh, but SpinmasterLame should come back when (or if) Killington has something exciting to announce. We all know the skiable acres is marketing bs, so it's stupid to argue about it.

as is this

Just wrong. The guy is doing what he is paid to do.

correct.

We encourage industry participation in these forums. Fair criticism and engaging questions is fine. Direct insults and name calling towards those people working in the biz helping to promote the sport we all love is extremely lame.

 

[gmcunni]

We encourage industry participation in these forums. Fair criticism and engaging questions is fine. Direct insults and name calling towards those people working in the biz helping to promote the sport we all love is extremely lame.

ok but as a casual observer i did think there was some attitude in spinmaster's posting.

if you give it, you will get it back.

 

[wa-loaf]

We encourage industry participation in these forums. Fair criticism and engaging questions is fine. Direct insults and name calling towards those people working in the biz helping to promote the sport we all love is extremely lame.

I think a marketing person from another mtn coming into a thread about another hill is lame. If he can't take a little back, maybe he should go get to work on the sidewalk K is building ...

 

[deadheadskier]

fair enough, but there's a way of saying that without resorting to name calling no?

 

[wa-loaf]

fair enough, but there's a way of saying that without resorting to name calling no?

Tool=too far, SpinmasterLame=extremely funny and witty on my part ... ;-) :beer:

 

[Angus]

Sugarloaf would be bigger than Killington, the way Los Angeles is bigger than New York. Maybe you could make a similar comparison of night life, which Killington and New York would win. But after that, asking which area has better skiing would be like asking which city has better food.

Hmmm, not sure that makes any sense but since I wrote it I'll post it.

I understand...I think.

 

[bigbog]

I wonder what how long / what the hike will be like from the crossover in from King Pine and then up to access the Burnt Summit.

I'm assuming the cut back to the main mountain will be below King Pine chair, so this will take a lot of work to lap. At 665 acres, without lift service it will take a long, long time to track all of that out.

Will be interesting to see what trail(s) are made/used.
I hope hi-speed lifts up Boardwalk and Spillway won't be the 10-year part... They could eliminate the sauna-environment in the main lodge in the early mornings....like who doesn't come dressed for cool temps...only to bake while putting on boots and jacket..:-o
....But it sounds good.

$.01

 

[ethan]

Hi all,

Ethan from Sugarloaf here. A bit of clarification on the acreage numbers. We based the claim of becoming the biggest in the East on the measurement of inbounds, skiable acres. As of last season that number was 651 acres, with the scheduled opening of Brackett Basin this season it will grow to 921, and by the time all three phases of expansion are complete it will be at 1306. By that measurement Sugarloaf will be the largest.

Though we still publish our boundary to boundary acreage for comparison purposes, it's not our preferred measurement, as it can be somewhat misleading. (There is a lot of acreage included in that number that really isn't all that skiable, even with a boundary to boundary policy.) With that measurement we will top out at a bit over 2000 once the expansion is complete.

With all of the goings-on here this week, there are apparently some numbers on our web site that were overlooked and still need to be updated (like the snowmaking percentage).

No matter what the numbers are, we're going to be opening up some unreal new terrain this year, and most people that I've talked to are pretty pumped about it. There will be a lot of fresh tracks up for grabs in 270 acres of Brackett Basin.

Ethan