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Sugarloaf Announces Terrain Expansion to Burnt Mountain and 10-year Development Plan
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Previous post fixed, and I apologize to those who took offense.
In all honesty it was suppose to be more of ribbing instead of an insult....guess I should have used a smiley face, a wink or something.
In all honesty it was suppose to be more of ribbing instead of an insult....guess I should have used a smiley face, a wink or something.
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I am not overly fond of the industry insider slant on forums. But these posts are just great and makes me want to break out the popcorn. Ski resort marketing guy pissing about the overly inflated marketing claims and over inflated stats of another mountain. Pot meet kettle. My personal opinion? Loaf feels bigger than Killington even if Killington is actually bigger. Though with Burnt Mountain, it looks like reality and feel will both be in Loafs favor.
Now all they need is an airport between CV and Rangeley with flights from DC/ Baltimore, NYC Metro Area, and Boston Metro area. State of Maine, can you say stimulus funds or the type of funds from foreign investors seeking a green card similar to what Jay Peak and Sugarbush are using.
Vortex
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Best marketing is action not words. The Loaf got the word out the real impact will be how people react to it after making tuns there. Same with K and the new elevated walkway.
Negative marketing attacks have negative impacts IMO.
Competition it good for all of us, even among competitors.
Steve from Jay Peak does a nice job at balancing this.
Negative marketing attacks have negative impacts IMO.
Competition it good for all of us, even among competitors.
Steve from Jay Peak does a nice job at balancing this.
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nah. they need a Supertrain!
What 'realistic' road changes could speed up the trip? Connector highway from Waterville to Madison?
I don't know that route well. I've only gone through Belgrade Lakes, which obviously there's little room for road expansion.
I don't know that route well. I've only gone through Belgrade Lakes, which obviously there's little room for road expansion.
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I don't know that area at all, but looking at the map, if Maine wanted to improve access to their ski country, maybe an interstate highway from Lewiston to Wilton would give the most bang for the buck. From Wilton you could go to either Sunday River or Sugarloaf or Saddleback, and an extension like that would benefit both Boston and Portland access.
I think they need an interstate highway, since you need to average about 70 miles an hour to save much time. From Boston it's currently about 133 miles of interstate and then 88 miles of state roads to reach Sugarloaf. If there was an interstate extension to Wilton, that would convert about 40 miles of the state roads to interstate, cutting about 30 minutes off the travel time. Not a huge savings, but very significant. If they'd had a project like that "shovel ready", maybe they could have gotten some federal stimulus funds for it.
Another option would be Snowcat service from Beacon Hill direct to the snowfields, but that would only save time if they can find a Snowcat with wings.
gmcunni
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you jest but i'd love this idea.. driving from South CT just isn't an appealing option. if I could hop on the train and get there with minimal fuss i'd bring friend and family with me
Waterville to Madison isn't a highway, but it is a big wide and mostly straight road. You can go pretty fast and there are a lot of passing opportunities if a slowpoke is in front of you. After Madison is where things slow down some.
bigbog
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That's exactly right wa-loaf! High-speed rail....not just for getting to playgrounds, but getting me from Bangor to better work(in Portland area) that I have experience in....along with many others with similar career scenarios....
you jest but i'd love this idea.. driving from South CT just isn't an appealing option. if I could hop on the train and get there with minimal fuss i'd bring friend and family with me
Partial jest because I don't really see it happening, but I would be all for it if there were an effort put into it.
RootDKJ
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This thread delivers! :beer:
billski
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I'll take the one with lower skier visits any day!
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Let's see - a marketing guy from K-Mart coming into a Sugarloaf thread to try and clear up a question on ski area statistics.
That's rich. After all, we all know that if there's one thing K-Mart stands for, it's transparency and honest dealing.
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First off, congrats to Sugarloaf for announcing a terrain expansion. It’s this type of news that creates excitement on a hot August day as we all dream about skiing and riding.
Killington Resort has long laid claim as the largest resort east of the Mississippi. Being the largest is one of our core attributes and a huge part of our brand identity. When another resort claims to become the largest resort in the east, it is expected that we would comment.
However, it all depending upon which metric used to make the claim.
Currently, Killington Resort has the following:
752 acres of “developed skiing terrain.”
71 miles of terrain
Approximately 3,007 acres of terrain boundary to boundary
We know that Sugarloaf will be at 900+ acres of “developed” terrain upon completion on phase 1 of their expansion. Plus, we know that Sugarloaf will be at 2,000+ acres of terrain boundary to boundary upon completion of phase 3. What we don’t know is what their mileage will be, or if they have even calculated it, or if it even matters to them.
As far as what constitutes the biggest in the east, it’s not always comparing apples to apples. There isn’t a formula for it as we all seem to pretty much use what best fits our individual resort’s interest, marketing plans, etc.
Here at Killington, we have numerous gladed areas that don’t calculate into our overall developed acreage, such as the trees on the skiers right of Superstar, numerous areas in The Stash, Needle’s Eye area and off Killington Peak, just to name a few. In addition, Patsy’s only has three acres of “developed” terrain. However as most of you who have skied that area know, there is much more than three acres of skiable terrain there. Same holds true for Julio, Anarchy, Low Rider, etc.
At the end of the day, we’re all passionate skiers and riders and excited the share our thoughts, experiences and adventures we have on the snow. So let the conversation continue as to who has the biggest, best, steepest, etc., because what really matters most is wherever you ski/ride you have a great time and share that experience with others.
Cheers!
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Killington Resort has long laid claim as the largest resort east of the Mississippi. Being the largest is one of our core attributes and a huge part of our brand identity. When another resort claims to become the largest resort in the east, it is expected that we would comment.
However, it all depending upon which metric used to make the claim.
Currently, Killington Resort has the following:
752 acres of “developed skiing terrain.”
71 miles of terrain
Approximately 3,007 acres of terrain boundary to boundary
We know that Sugarloaf will be at 900+ acres of “developed” terrain upon completion on phase 1 of their expansion. Plus, we know that Sugarloaf will be at 2,000+ acres of terrain boundary to boundary upon completion of phase 3. What we don’t know is what their mileage will be, or if they have even calculated it, or if it even matters to them.
As far as what constitutes the biggest in the east, it’s not always comparing apples to apples. There isn’t a formula for it as we all seem to pretty much use what best fits our individual resort’s interest, marketing plans, etc.
Here at Killington, we have numerous gladed areas that don’t calculate into our overall developed acreage, such as the trees on the skiers right of Superstar, numerous areas in The Stash, Needle’s Eye area and off Killington Peak, just to name a few. In addition, Patsy’s only has three acres of “developed” terrain. However as most of you who have skied that area know, there is much more than three acres of skiable terrain there. Same holds true for Julio, Anarchy, Low Rider, etc.
At the end of the day, we’re all passionate skiers and riders and excited the share our thoughts, experiences and adventures we have on the snow. So let the conversation continue as to who has the biggest, best, steepest, etc., because what really matters most is wherever you ski/ride you have a great time and share that experience with others.
Cheers!
:beer:
St. Bear
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I liked the way you put it better...
Edd
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I like the Waterville-Madison route the best. It seems slightly more direct than the Augusta-Farmington route. 99% of the drive is between 50-70 mph....depending how fast you go on 95, of course. I can make it to the Loaf from Portsmouth in under 3.5 hours, with a 10 minute stop at a store. Can't seem to get there fast enough.
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