BodeMiller1
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Umm, maybe rename some of the trails. Flowers 
are nice but....
are nice but....
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Tenney Mountain
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raisingarizona
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Butt?
4aprice
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Wouldn't be my first visit to Tenney, but I would love to try and ski the original SKI 93 with Mittersill, Waterville Loon and Cannon. Be a fun adventure.
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"parshall"??? Really?
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BodeMiller1
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SKI 93
Still see the bumper stickers.
Something for everyone to ski within 100 square miles or so...
BodeMiller1
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You add an extra "t" because it's the right thing to do. Inside joke, if you will RA.
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Looks good. How many folks on the hill? they have bands at night to build a following.
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Not sure what the deal is with the Eclipse - I'd believe anything from "not inspected" to "only one lift crew" to "why bother, there's no line anyway".
Hopefully they're learning from actual operating experience and next year's startup goes a lot smoother. Maybe even get a trail covered in snowmaking by Christmas.
Hopefully they're learning from actual operating experience and next year's startup goes a lot smoother. Maybe even get a trail covered in snowmaking by Christmas.
BodeMiller1
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I was hanging out with a snow maker working at Ragged Mt a couple of days ago. He's been up Tenney and said the guy running the place is using a firetruck pump to get water up the hill to make snow. That might work if you parked the truck 400' feet up or so. His main point was the snowmaking needs to be rebuilt from scratch. The wood is all rotten, on the ski bridges and is held up by tires. 
He was at Sunapee butt, said he didn't like Vail, they were very tight with their $. He can get away with it in a good snow year, but we all know most of the time you've got to make snow to have good conditions for Christmas vacation...
Onward and upward...
He was at Sunapee butt, said he didn't like Vail, they were very tight with their $. He can get away with it in a good snow year, but we all know most of the time you've got to make snow to have good conditions for Christmas vacation...Onward and upward...
Newpylong
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I know he had that setup a few years back but didn't know they were still doing it. I'm surprised it even has the lift to get it to the top of the Eclipse and they're using Low E too. Remember when I said it wasn't possible to get those Cummins motors on their pumps DES certified?
Alfred engineering built them the most over complex snowmaking plant I've ever seen. We're taking pressure control valves up the wazoo automated with analog dials from the 80s. Horizontal wet pit pumps with horizontal boosters right next to them. He'll need to rip it all out to the feed valves and install some vertical turbines and VFDs if they want to get serious.
Alfred engineering built them the most over complex snowmaking plant I've ever seen. We're taking pressure control valves up the wazoo automated with analog dials from the 80s. Horizontal wet pit pumps with horizontal boosters right next to them. He'll need to rip it all out to the feed valves and install some vertical turbines and VFDs if they want to get serious.
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IceEidolon
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Getting serious isn't actually that spendy, not compared to what's already spent on cats and guns. It's sure not *cheap* but installing a 300hp pump skid isn't "two new PBs" pricy.
Hell, there's a used pump setup with enough pressure gain to just about run low E guns all the way up the Eclipse pod on CHS right now for less than $100k. 1200' TDH, 2x 150 HP 300 GPM pumps.
Put it this way, if the cost of minimally working pumps is a deal breaker, I hope smaller mountains can get their hands on those nice, barely used HKDs and PBs cheap.
Hell, there's a used pump setup with enough pressure gain to just about run low E guns all the way up the Eclipse pod on CHS right now for less than $100k. 1200' TDH, 2x 150 HP 300 GPM pumps.
Put it this way, if the cost of minimally working pumps is a deal breaker, I hope smaller mountains can get their hands on those nice, barely used HKDs and PBs cheap.
Newpylong
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If you want to base your comeback on barely being able to make snow (still) and purchase some possibly dicey shit off of CHS then sure, I guess it's not that bad.
If you do it want to do it right and procure pumps to the appropriate specifications to be able to adequately cover a couple routes to the top of both Hornet and Eclipse with VFDs and basic yet modern controls then it's not going to be cheap. I think I've mentioned this but one of my good friends specs and then installs skids built by Torrent, etc and I have seen the price tags. Then there are the quotes that came across my desk alone for ala cart pumps and motors when I was still in the industry.
I don't see how they are going to survive without doing something though even if it's not the Rolls Royce solution.
If you do it want to do it right and procure pumps to the appropriate specifications to be able to adequately cover a couple routes to the top of both Hornet and Eclipse with VFDs and basic yet modern controls then it's not going to be cheap. I think I've mentioned this but one of my good friends specs and then installs skids built by Torrent, etc and I have seen the price tags. Then there are the quotes that came across my desk alone for ala cart pumps and motors when I was still in the industry.
I don't see how they are going to survive without doing something though even if it's not the Rolls Royce solution.
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Did he buy the snowcats or is he leasing them? I believe the "last time" he was leasing them.
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Cats and guns you can lease. You can’t lease pumps.
he’s also not using PBs. He has Prinoths.
he’s also not using PBs. He has Prinoths.
drjeff
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One of my friends from my hometown in CT, who happens to own one of the condos at the base of Tenney, posted this vid up of him, his son, and his son's friend skiing both on trail and in the trees at Tenney last weekend to his Instagram account.
Looks like a bunch of fun!
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Looks like a bunch of fun!
Eric Scott Anderson on Instagram: "I’d give this day a 10 at 10e today. 😂 Awesome day touring Tenney woods with Caleb and William 🐺🦅🦉🌲🗻⛷️"
29 likes, 2 comments - ericscottanderson on February 25, 2023: "I’d give this day a 10 at 10e today. 😂 Awesome day touring Tenney woods with Caleb and William 🐺🦅🦉🌲🗻⛷️".
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I skied Tenney yesterday and it was so much fun. Showed up at 9:30ish and there were only 7 other cars in the parking lot. Coverage was really good and it was like having a private mountain most of the day.
The biggest downside is how slow that lift is.
The biggest downside is how slow that lift is.
There were some great buys (low $200,000 and fully renovated) for those condos not too long ago. They're all gone now.One of my friends from my hometown in CT, who happens to own one of the condos at the base of Tenney, posted this vid up of him, his son, and his son's friend skiing both on trail and in the trees at Tenney last weekend to his Instagram account.
Looks like a bunch of fun!
Eric Scott Anderson on Instagram: "I’d give this day a 10 at 10e today. 😂 Awesome day touring Tenney woods with Caleb and William 🐺🦅🦉🌲🗻⛷️"
29 likes, 2 comments - ericscottanderson on February 25, 2023: "I’d give this day a 10 at 10e today. 😂 Awesome day touring Tenney woods with Caleb and William 🐺🦅🦉🌲🗻⛷️".
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The HKDs are definitely not leased and definitely not cheap.
My point is that if the new ownership is dropping the amount of money they already spent on Ops equipment and infrastructure, getting actual pumps is also within their budget. Or they spent money stupidly (again) and someone's getting a fire sale when they sell off their shiny new HKD gear.
My point is that if the new ownership is dropping the amount of money they already spent on Ops equipment and infrastructure, getting actual pumps is also within their budget. Or they spent money stupidly (again) and someone's getting a fire sale when they sell off their shiny new HKD gear.
Newpylong
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Yeah I don't know - the whole buying a bunch of new guns and two new(ish?) Bisons while using a fire pump doesn't strike me as a calculated plan, but who knows. I wish them the best and hope things work out, I would like to head over next year if there is a little more consistency.
