The Most Important Resort Improvement for the Summer of 2010

[speden]

The improvement I was most looking forward to was for Ragged to replace the devastatingly slow Spear triple. I thought that was on the roadmap for this summer, but there's no mention of it on their website. Not sure if that means it's not happening or not. They haven't exactly been good about keeping their website up to date. Anyway I'm crossing my fingers that it's going to happen.

 

[Puck it]

The improvement I was most looking forward to was for Ragged to replace the devastatingly slow Spear triple. I thought that was on the roadmap for this summer, but there's no mention of it on their website. Not sure if that means it's not happening or not. They haven't exactly been good about keeping their website up to date. Anyway I'm crossing my fingers that it's going to happen.

Maybe they can buy a used double from the other thread on Cannon!!!!!!!:wink:

 

[Puck it]

you display a know it all attitude online. I'm not the first to notice this or call you out on it. I'm guessing it translates pretty accurately in 3D.

Pot meet kettle!!!!:-D

 

[AdironRider]

Pot meet kettle indeed.

 

[deadheadskier]

yep, got me pegged

 

[Riverskier]

Pot meet kettle!!!!:-D

Beat me to it....

 

[catskillman]

Check out the base webcam on the Hunter site - for this years improvement??

 

[dmc]

Check out the base webcam on the Hunter site - for this years improvement??

I can't wait to try this out!!!

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Thats the nicest freaking tent you or I have ever seen. I still think base area improvement should be done after on hill improvements. You can call me pathetic, insult my lack of grammar on an internet forum (oh my!), my intelligence, the list goes on, but I dont give a damn.

Apparently you do give a damn, otherwise you couldn't continue posting.

You can call it what you want, but it is, in fact, a tent. That tent was right next to a pretty ugly double-wide. It was all 3rd class, and always temporary, for a resort that aspires to be 1st class amongst its competitors. As for the grammar, perhaps you shouldn't have opened the door by threatening to bust out your thesaurus. But I'm sure it's "your opinion" that I went there first.

To please AdironRider I want the best damn on snow experience before anything else gets a dime spent on it. Get it? You dont like it, so resort to picking apart ever single thing I have to say about it. Bullshit.

I don't like it b/c it's 100% inaccurate. You get your panties in a bunch when I call attention to that fact. That's your problem, not mine.

All Sugarbush has done has spent money on phase 1 (massive real estate development) and now phase 2, which is amenities for said real estate development, which in my mind is just a direct extension of real estate.

So I guess they didn't spend money on:

1) Installing a critical new base area HSQ at SB North

2) Replacing the C-Rock double chair with one having the EXACT SAME capacity as the old one (600/hr) even though that was not the financially optimal decision to take

3) Installing new low-e guns with much higher productivity/quality on Ripcord, FIS, Stein's Run, Spring Fling and other core/high visibility runs

4) Increasing the size of the grooming fleet

5) Adding over 100 acres of new gladed terrain

6) Most importantly, engaging their land owners/managers (the NFS) in an extensive, expensive and extended process to complete a new forestry management plan that sets the stage for continued on-mountain expansion and evolution in the years to come

That was all in my imagination.

Moreover, you refer to the new building as amenities for the real-estate when that couldn't be further from the truth. Quite literally 100%, verifiably untrue. Yet, you hide behind the pathetic cop out that it's "just your opinion". Such weak sauce from you.

Once again, for all to see, they are building two structures. One is a Children's Adventure Center with all kids programs, rentals and lessons plus a small cafeteria/food outlet of some kind. It houses everything for kids except daycare, which remains in SB Village. The other building is simply the Skier Services Building containing rentals, ticketing, lessons and adventure programs for adults. These two structures are designed to serve everyone who comes to SB and are key components of Win's strategy to target the family market that Killington has abandoned. To imply that they are simply appendages for the benefit of the 64 units in Claybrook (as opposed to the other 300,000 people who ski SB every year) is just asinine and should speak for itself.

This is my opinion, and I can say whatever I want. Deal with it.

In other news, AdironRider was last seen holding his breath b/c he didn't get his way at the local Starbucks.

I boot up in the car and never spend a second or one dime in a resorts base facilities, naturally Im going to see anything else as a waste of money.

Which is exactly why your perspective on things not only should be ignored, but is so uninformed in the first place.

So be it, Ive been lambasted on this forum plenty of times before, and will plenty of times in the future. My brash internet persona brings this, Ive gotten used to it.

You GO GIRL!

 

[dmc]

I think you guys are being pretty acerbic with this guy..

jmho

 

[AdironRider]

Apparently you do give a damn, otherwise you couldn't continue posting.

Ill keep going since this seems to have turned into a contest for who will have the last word.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Ill keep going since this seems to have turned into a contest for who will have the last word.

It sure as heck isn't about your original claims, which just make you look foolish, so might as well change the subject turn it into a pissing contest.

 

[dmc]

I still think Sugarbush needs to stop real estate development and start focusing on the on mountain experience, they are now at the back of the pack in terms of major resorts in VT, and are only falling further behind.

All the guy did was offer an opinion...
And you all just jumped all over him...

For real.. You may not agree but don't rip into him..

Is this a place where people can offer opinions?
Or is a place where you get shut down and ridiculed when offering an opinion?

 

[AdironRider]

The Sugarbush halo effect strikes again. It all started with a simple statement of personal preference. Meh.

Lets start a MRG and snowboarding thread, its been a while.

Throw in a dash of Sundown. Simmer until done.

 

[thetrailboss]

Gentlemen: let's get back to the topic at hand.

 

[deadheadskier]

I think you guys are being pretty acerbic with this guy..

jmho

door is swinging both ways as far as I can tell.

All the guy did was offer an opinion...
And you all just jumped all over him...

For real.. You may not agree but don't rip into him..

Is this a place where people can offer opinions?
Or is a place where you get shut down and ridiculed when offering an opinion?

I could go through and do the multi quote thing and show that his argument started out with what he thought was best for business at SB then became about what he personally wants, about how he was bashing real estate development when that isn't even what is being worked on right now, his lack of knowledge about the tents / trailers, etc.

People are free to post opinions all they want, but when you come from a proven uninformed position; you open yourself up for criticism. I expect the same thing if I come strong with an opinion on a subject I'm uninformed about. Generally, if I blatantly don't know something about an area, I tend to STFU about it, but that's just me.

People are certainly free to offer an opinion. Others a free to disagree. The riduculing ascerbic behavior was a two way street. He just happened to not have others agreeing with his position.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[AdironRider]

So apparently my career and personal personality have something to do with it? Great moderation.

DMC quoted my original statement. Everyone freaked out about it. So I came back strong. Get over yourselves. Tell me again how building a bunch of buildings is not some form of real estate? Just because its not condos doesnt mean ny opinion doesnt matter. Commercial real estate OH MY! Apparently that doesnt count because it would defeat your point. How is that uninformed? Ive already listed exactly what they did in phase 1 and 2, was I off, so sorry I didnt spell it out for you and list exactly how many bricks and actual bedrooms are involved when I say "real estate development".

So continue on insulting my career, grammar, using bold type, and getting all the rest of the SB homer crew involved. I still think they can live with that taj mahal of a tent to rent skis out of and invest in some real on snow product enhancement going forward. You disagree, you just cant admit to yourselves that someone else might have a different view of what they feel is important. Tin references his picture as the equivalent of Silverton. If hes ever been there he would realize that comparison is piss poor. Theyve got two shoddy yurts and a beat up bus. They do have a helicopter though, thats one nice way to improve the on mountain experience.

 

[twinplanx]

you SB homers are a bunch of clowns! Its a great area, no doubt. But I'm feelin'ADKRider here. Maybe there just butt hurt cause the Empire State gets the snowl & some tax help...

 

[deadheadskier]

Bush homers wont phase me. Ive skied there plenty and from what win himself and others have posted, have a pretty good idea of what theyve improved and havent improved over the two seasons since I last skied there. I have my opinion, you have yours. But if makes you feel better to get all uppity, so be it.

AR - best I can tell, you threw the first grenade.

People questioned your opinion based upon you not having been there in a few years. I think that's a fairly valid reason to question someone's opinions. They did so in a civil way.

You're the one who took it personally and started firing back with insults first. Reap what you sow....

 

[AdironRider]

More like a water baloon if you ask me...

Their on snow product has had little change, Win wont even answer my questions on how much has been spent on base improvement vs on snow. The silence is deafening.

You should take some notes from the Trailboss Deadhead. At least he plays his moderator role correctly. What exactly am I reaping? It should be clear Im not going to go cry to my mom about some internet SB homers getting all worked up and calling me pathetic.