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The "Sugarbush Thread"
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MadPadraic
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Bravo has the rock fall which is tricky to navigate. I've never noticed Ext's bumps being bigger than Bravo's, but I won't debate it. However, this raises an interesting question. Do you think bigger bumps make a trail harder? I'd never actually considered that before. (honestly--not trying to troll)
I mentioned the rock fall/headwall on Bravo...but like I said that is only a few turns and it is over and then mellows out substantially.
As for whether I think bigger bumps make a trail harder? Personally I'd say yes. Bigger bumps with deeper troughs I think in general are also more intimidating to a lot of people. If the bumps are very soft though, then the difference isn't as relevant (i.e. powder or soft spring bumps). But for typical mid-winter packed/firm/icy bumps, I think the size correlates more with level of difficulty.
jimmywilson69
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Yes absolulately hard bumps that are deep are more difficult. especially for people who aren't very good at hard bumps. I never really skied bumps until I was an adult, so my technique is poor. Also I ski fast and that and hard/fast bumps don't mix...
MadPadraic
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My apologies. This is just a terminology thing. i think of a head wall as being at the top of the trail and the rock fall is partway down if I remember correctly.
Hmm maybe a skier/rider thing? I don't try to ride a zip line; instead I either go between the bumps or spin at top. Bigger bumps are much better for controlling speed when you ride that way. Now, space between the bumps and the relative offset of bumps does impact how tough a trail rides. All this being said, as I get older I worry more and more about permanent damage to my knees so I limit my exposure to hard/solid bumps. (This is a major reason why I'd personally like to see an additional steep groomer during lean periods)
Newpylong
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Do they still put the spot snow gun on top of the Bravo rocks to cover them? There is/was a lateral jumper through the woods from Elbow that would be used.
Hawk
Well-known member
I have not seen that in a while. But then again, I only ski over there when the snow gets good. Skiing blue cruisers for 2 months get's old. CD may know better.
Hawk
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Bravo with the rock band would never be able to be goormed. I mean they could groom top down and bottom up and leave the middle. Exteriminator could probably be goomed on the skiers right with good snow but the skier left also has a good amount of rocks. I would hate to see either groomed at all.
I've seen the single gun and hoses stretched to that spot the past 2 seasons...but never saw any visual evidence either year that it was actually used. Not sure if they just used it very briefly or scrapped the idea or ran into some sort of issue...
Agreed with all of this. And of course the big issue here is that the times when MadPraic wants them groomed (lean snow periods) are precisely the times they would be even less "groomable".
Smellytele
Well-known member
Bumps slow me down and are less dangerous than a slick groomer. You will have a better chance to stop sliding on bumps not so much a slick groomer.
It's been a long time for me, but they used to groom Exterminator every once in while.
Yea...but they also used to make snow on it. With only all natural snow cover, I'm not sure you have too many days where there's genuinely enough depth to cover up the rocks with enough snow to groom it without risking damage to the cat. And if you do have that much natural snow/cover, there's probably no reason to groom it lol.
MadPadraic
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Ok, topic for discussion: Organgrinder is the signature bump trail with snow making and, say, exterminator would be the signature bump trail without (feel free to substitute as Brava/FIS/Diamond as you see fit). Does Ext trail ski/ride better than OG on a powder day? How about 4 days removed from a storm?
Exactly.
IMHO, yes to both questions.
I think "better" is tough/tricky to determine. I think they ski "differently". On a powder day I don't think either of those would be my top choices for a bump run though... (Although Ext would be far higher up my list than OG).
Also hard to compare a trail at ME to LP. Generally speaking I think the snow from a storm lasts longer at ME than LP, but it also depends on the storm and the wind direction, etc. There have also been times that ME gets windblown after a storm and many LP trails are more protected depending on the direction of the wind.
Also hard to compare a trail at ME to LP. Generally speaking I think the snow from a storm lasts longer at ME than LP, but it also depends on the storm and the wind direction, etc. There have also been times that ME gets windblown after a storm and many LP trails are more protected depending on the direction of the wind.
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