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The "Sugarbush Thread"

machski

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You don't need an onslaught of people going one route to create a skiable trail. And you still need a mrg pass or ticket, it's not like making the trek will automatically get you a free ticket just waive your pass at the mrg ticket scanner. It's going to be the same people who would of driven over anyway if there was no way to ski over
One big thing you are forgetting is that this is Vermont in a very sensitive area for wildlife. If an illegal (non sanctioned if you like) trail were to crop up, pretty sure the state would make both resorts take steps to ensure its permanent closure.
 

Blurski

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They will still pump up from the current pond as the Mad River is the only consistent source of water. The new pond would be a secondary holding pond. Before 1995 the only source of water for Lincoln peak was from Clay brook behind VH chair and from a pumphouse at the golf course on #11. That system was tiny. They could also dig the pond at the river deeper but I don't think that will happen because it would be more to dig out when it floods and fills it with silt again. And yes, approvals would be difficult and expensive.
Digging the pond deeper was proposed to the State agencies when Irene in 2011 came through and it needed extensive repairs that cost over $1M, it was the perfect time to do this, shot down by the state. Disruption of underground springs, etc.......
 

Hawk

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Digging the pond deeper was proposed to the State agencies when Irene in 2011 came through and it needed extensive repairs that cost over $1M, it was the perfect time to do this, shot down by the state. Disruption of underground springs, etc.......
The pond at the river was dug out a few years ago after the post Irene storms/floods of recent times. They had approval then I guess. I saw the excavator myself down there. I think they may have posted a blog post or Insta. I remember see something.
 

cdskier

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The pond at the river was dug out a few years ago after the post Irene storms/floods of recent times. They had approval then I guess. I saw the excavator myself down there. I think they may have posted a blog post or Insta. I remember see something.

It was simply dug out back to the previous depth from what I recall. It was never dug out deeper to the original permitted depth (ran into too many issues/challenges digging further once they got to a certain point which was why they never hit the depth it was originally permitted to when they first dug it out).
 

Blurski

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The pond at the river was dug out a few years ago after the post Irene storms/floods of recent times. They had approval then I guess. I saw the excavator myself down there. I think they may have posted a blog post or Insta. I remember see something.
Right, however they did not get approval to go deeper, i trust my source on this 100%.
 

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You are correct. The reason it was a big deal I believe was they would have had to dam the entrance suck out all the water and blast rock at the bottom in some places. I think it was more of a cost issue that they did not press for it. I might be off but I remember a discussion that was had.
 

Newpylong

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It was permitted to 63 million gallons, built to only 25 million (due to issues uncovered during construction) w/around 18 million usable. I believe the silt was excavated to get them back to that 18 million usable mark.

18 million gives them around 4 days running at 3,000 gallons per minute which is a high end realistic number for the Lincoln system.
 

Blurski

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It was permitted to 63 million gallons, built to only 25 million (due to issues uncovered during construction) w/around 18 million usable. I believe the silt was excavated to get them back to that 18 million usable mark.

18 million gives them around 4 days running at 3,000 gallons per minute which is a high end realistic number for the Lincoln system.
Stand corrected, my source gave me BS!
 

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2/ Northridge before snowmaking. Why? Zero expectation of permitting, finance and construction of new/expanded water source for snowmaking happening inside of 5-7 years.
This has been my thinking too. Spreads the capex out while addressing the 2 major issues.

Hope the latest and upcoming rain fills the pond and rivers. Starting to think snow with the cooler weather.
 

cdskier

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Better late than never...our condo management company finally forwarded the survey from Sugarbush to us! Just filled it out...
 
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