The "Sugarbush Thread"

[Lotso]

So the net result will be that IKONers will get a $30 credit and Bobby will throw EPIC folks a free "I Love Epic" hat. Oh, and the lawyers will get paid.

This has the same chance of winning as the chance that GMX opens this week.

 

[urungus]

My guess is ellen will close completely early next year when they start removal of lift, similar to the amount of terrain they had to close when replacing HG.

They will follow their history and close early with no warning after selling spring pass

 

[Lotso]

They will follow their history and close early with no warning after selling spring pass

With ME closing the last weekend in March each year, I doubt the spring pass will be an issue. Just hope it happend.

For lift folks: Could the tower footings and other concrete be reused (ie- no new pours/delays/costs due to blasting and pouring)? Or is it SOP to start with all new if a lift/footings are that old? Obviously I am not a concrete expert, ad I have not read the application.

 

[Blurski]

There is erosion control set up. It’s on the downhill side (right side) visible on the right hand corner of the image. Sediment/dirt can’t erode up hill FFS.

Logic would tell you that, the VT EPSC regulations would tell you otherwise, no worries for me, not one of my projects.

 

[mikec142]

Sediment/dirt can’t erode up hill FFS.

Maybe if it tries harder...

 

[jimmywilson69]

With ME closing the last weekend in March each year, I doubt the spring pass will be an issue. Just hope it happend.

For lift folks: Could the tower footings and other concrete be reused (ie- no new pours/delays/costs due to blasting and pouring)? Or is it SOP to start with all new if a lift/footings are that old? Obviously I am not a concrete expert, ad I have not read the application.

new tower footings for sure then you dont have to worry about the footings rotting out in the future before the end of the lift life.

 

[fulgoreXC]

With ME closing the last weekend in March each year, I doubt the spring pass will be an issue. Just hope it happend.

For lift folks: Could the tower footings and other concrete be reused (ie- no new pours/delays/costs due to blasting and pouring)? Or is it SOP to start with all new if a lift/footings are that old? Obviously I am not a concrete expert, ad I have not read the application.

The concrete tower bases are beyond their design life. If you've ever seen them in the summer, you'd see the evidence of the severe environment they experience. So new bases will need to be cast. Reinforced concrete design philosophy has changed since that lift was installed so they will be a bit beefier with more reinforcing.

Regarding construction and material costs, in general the costs have increased significantly since the late teens. Mostly due to the escalation that occurred during COVID. The sharp spike that happened hasn't come down regardless on whether the market is trading higher or lower. $10M is a bargain when compared to the 6 for HG which was shorter and a fixed grip.

 

[crystalmountainskier]

The chairs are made in Thailand? Wow. I would have figured Europe or Utah.

Both Dopp and LPOA source their simpler chairs models from Asia. Premium/detachable/bubble styles come from Austria.

 

[HowieT2]

I might regret saying this on a particularly cold/windy day, but I'm fine with not having bubble chairs

 

[thetrailboss]

The concrete tower bases are beyond their design life. If you've ever seen them in the summer, you'd see the evidence of the severe environment they experience. So new bases will need to be cast. Reinforced concrete design philosophy has changed since that lift was installed so they will be a bit beefier with more reinforcing.

Regarding construction and material costs, in general the costs have increased significantly since the late teens. Mostly due to the escalation that occurred during COVID. The sharp spike that happened hasn't come down regardless on whether the market is trading higher or lower. $10M is a bargain when compared to the 6 for HG which was shorter and a fixed grip.

Yes, I imagine that 31 years of alpine environment, plus probably done "on the cheap" by LBO, might render them pretty much done.

 

[thetrailboss]

So assuming that the NRX is replaced, do any of you think it will result in an increase in traffic there? As in more than just a small bump from folks going for the novelty of the new lift?

 

[djd66]

So assuming that the NRX is replaced, do any of you think it will result in an increase in traffic there? As in more than just a small bump from folks going for the novelty of the new lift?

I do not expect to see any change in traffic (other than the first couple of weeks)

 

[sull1102]

I’d think if it’s just a regular good ol detach quad with no bells or whistles it won’t change anyone’s habits. Not much need for more than exactly that though, save the $$$ for the soon to come GMX replacement/rebuild. That would be a better candidate for something nice like a D Line 6 similar to Barker.