This weather is hurting the majority of the ski business

[Wavewheeler]

Another thing to take into consideration, with all this snow some of us have had ice dam, snow issues... So rather than getting out on the weekends, I have been tending to this, which sucks... Hope tomorrow to make it to the crotch at least, hell I will take wachusett even

When we were getting these storms on Mondays and Tuesdays I had the choice of moving my work into later in the week when I wanted to ski or onto the weekends. I worked a Sunday one day and yesterday, which was supposed to be my day off, so I could ski this past Wed. Seems ironic that too much cold/snow would keep one from skiing.

 

[AdironRider]

Wrongo BG, you must be a youngen -- they regularly handed out blankets before you got on the East Chair at Gore in late 60s, and patrollers would be standing where you got off the lift to check faces and send anybody inside if there were any white spots... that was the norm from late Dec thru early March back then...

I bet you walked to school uphill both ways, in a blizzard.

Get over yourself, it wasn't magically 50 degrees cooler on average in the 60's than it is now.

 

[VTKilarney]

I bet you walked to school uphill both ways, in a blizzard.

Get over yourself, it wasn't magically 50 degrees cooler on average in the 60's than it is now.

Maybe Shredder is Al Gore in real life.


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[Shredder of Gnar]

I bet you walked to school uphill both ways, in a blizzard.

Get over yourself, it wasn't magically 50 degrees cooler on average in the 60's than it is now.

You're right!!! I guess they gave out those blankets and checked everybody's faces just for kicks -- this is my last response, I need to prepare for a powder day tomorrow and I've learned that some other keyboard know-it-all will always have some last wise-ass comment!

Dress warm and ski hard....

 

[AdironRider]

You're right!!! I guess they gave out those blankets and checked everybody's faces just for kicks -- this is my last response, I need to prepare for a powder day tomorrow and I've learned that some other keyboard know-it-all will always have some last wise-ass comment!

Dress warm and ski hard....

It couldn't possibly be either of these two things:

Slow old lifts compared to high speed gondolas, quads, and triples...

Or you're just senile.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Wrongo BG, you must be a youngen -- they regularly handed out blankets before you got on the East Chair at Gore in late 60s, and patrollers would be standing where you got off the lift to check faces and send anybody inside if there were any white spots... that was the norm from late Dec thru early March back then...

Youngen? Not really, though perhaps relative to you. But I'm old enough to know that this part of the world doesn't experience -50 with wind chill even remotely often enough to "regularly" ski in those conditions, even if you somehow wanted to, which very few would.

And no, it was not that much colder in the 1960's either. In fact, 2015 is perhaps closing in on being among the coldest winters since records have been recorded, and you couldn't "regularly" ski in -50s at Gore this near record year either.

I bet you walked to school uphill both ways, in a blizzard.

Get over yourself, it wasn't magically 50 degrees cooler on average in the 60's than it is now.

 

[Rowsdower]

And no, it was not that much colder in the 1960's either. In fact, 2015 is perhaps closing in on being among the coldest winters since records have been recorded, and you couldn't "regularly" ski in -50s at Gore this near record year either.

Where? In the NE or worldwide? Because right now the west coast is having a pretty historically mild winter, and overall things are getting warmer. Doesn't mean local weather patterns won't change, but hey maybe we lucked out on the climate change lottery if it means Stowe will be getting more snow than Alta in the future.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Where?

Logic would dictate we're talking about.........the area we're talking about.

 

[Rowsdower]

Logic would dictate we're talking about.........the area we're talking about.

I didn't make that assumption. Brain was on a global climate wavelength when I read your post.

 

[joshua segal]

... -- they regularly handed out blankets before you got on the East Chair at Gore in late 60s, and patrollers would be standing where you got off the lift to check faces and send anybody inside if there were any white spots... that was the norm from late Dec thru early March back then...

Yes, they handed out blankets -- but M1 at Smuggler's Notch is as awful as any lift of the 60s and they don't hand out blankets. Basically, the clothing and accessories have obviated the need. A partial list of the "keeping warm" improvements includes:
1. Snow pants/Warm up pants
2. Balaclava
3. Hand/Toe warmers
4. Better insulated boots
5. Fleeces
6. Goretex
7. Better insulated gloves

I skied at Saddleback this season on a morning that started at -31 and not only survived, but thrived!

 

[deadheadskier]

I've already cancelled plans twice to hit n.VT this year,

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What did you do as a student at UVM? Stay in the dorm half the winter? I bet at least 45 days in an average season the temps at the top of the lifts on Mansfield don't exceed 10 degrees. I lived in Stowe and commuted to UVM 3 out of my4 years. Most mornings I left the house in negative digits during winter.

 

[BenedictGomez]

What did you do as a student at UVM? Stay in the dorm half the winter? I bet at least 45 days in an average season the temps at the top of the lifts on Mansfield don't exceed 10 degrees.

I didnt go go UVM.

If it was 10 degrees at the top, it would be fine. The times I'm talking about were far worse than that, and I'm not driving 6 to 7 hours to ski in -20s (or worse) perceived and/or have wind delays (or worse).

 

[yeggous]

Wildcat was quiet today, but I hear Bretton Woods was a zoo.

The bottom line is that years as a whole are trending warmer. However, there is a lot of evidence that suggests that cold air outbreaks and snow in New England, particularly in February, are getting more severe. It is largely related to a reduction in Arctic sea ice. You can take my word for it or engage me further.


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[Wavewheeler]

Where? In the NE or worldwide? Because right now the west coast is having a pretty historically mild winter, and overall things are getting warmer. Doesn't mean local weather patterns won't change, but hey maybe we lucked out on the climate change lottery if it means Stowe will be getting more snow than Alta in the future.

Figures..I plan to move west with the hope that I will experience REAL winter with snow, not rain. I'll take sunny and dry though. I can camp and hike, just like I did the day after Christmas when it was 50 degrees and I got to hike and camp out. Can you really complain about this?

It's been snowy since then so I'm happy enough to ski when I can.

I guess it's like that Crowded House song: "Everywhere you go, you take the weather with you".

 

[deadheadskier]

I didnt go go UVM.

If it was 10 degrees at the top, it would be fine. The times I'm talking about were far worse than that, and I'm not driving 6 to 7 hours to ski in -20s (or worse) perceived and/or have wind delays (or worse).

St Mike's?

 

[Jully]

The bottom line is that years as a whole are trending warmer. However, there is a lot of evidence that suggests that cold air outbreaks and snow in New England, particularly in February, are getting more severe. It is largely related to a reduction in Arctic sea ice. You can take my word for it or engage me further.


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New England is slated to receive a 60 to 70% increase in precipitation while the west is going to lose that much if not more.

If you wanna ski out west you better move to Canada!

 

[BenedictGomez]

I guess it's like that Crowded House song: "Everywhere you go, you take the weather with you".

Crowded House rules. Gotta' be one of the most underrated bands of the 80s.

St Mike's?

I didn't go to school in Vermont, I moved to Vermont immediately after college (within 1 month of graduating).

 

[deadheadskier]

my bad. your dialogue here always made you seem like a Burlington college student at one point. I thought we were scholastic brahs. Apparently not. :lol:

 

[Wavewheeler]

Crowded House rules. Gotta' be one of the most underrated bands of the 80s.

Always tended to think of it as a '90s band but I guess yeah, they started up in the mid-late '80s. I just listened to them a lot in the '90s, along with Collective Soul.

I didn't go to school in Vermont, I moved to Vermont immediately after college (within 1 month of graduating).

And you wound up in NJ? At least I have the excuse that I was raised here.

 

[goldsbar]

It couldn't possibly be either of these two things:

Slow old lifts compared to high speed gondolas, quads, and triples...

This and the fact that the clothing most people had was nowhere near as good as what you can buy now.