VAIL SUCKS

[thetrailboss]

The Utah take--with the most recent event being the PCMR strike. One has to wonder if she is the scapegoat for the bad news as of late....

Man who led Vail Resorts’ takeover of Park City Mountain and the Canyons ski areas returns as CEO

Rob Katz, the man who led Vail Resorts' acquisition of Park City Mountain and The Canyons ski areas, will return as the company's CEO, replacing Kirsten Lynch.

www.sltrib.com

 

[kbroderick]

The Utah take--with the most recent event being the PCMR strike. One has to wonder if she is the scapegoat for the bad news as of late....

Man who led Vail Resorts’ takeover of Park City Mountain and the Canyons ski areas returns as CEO

Rob Katz, the man who led Vail Resorts' acquisition of Park City Mountain and The Canyons ski areas, will return as the company's CEO, replacing Kirsten Lynch.

www.sltrib.com

I don't think there's too much wondering going on, seeing as Katz was involved all along and one would expect Lynch's actions had buy in from the board on a strategic level.

I will be filing "canned with $2.2 million in severance and full access to all RSUs" under "problems I'd like to have", though. If anyone is looking for a well-paid scapegoat, please send me a PM.

 

[Yo VT Raps]

I hear funny things about their HR department. Disaster zone.

 

[jimmywilson69]

Not surprising considering they've tried to centralize it in CO and you are dealing with hiring and terminating 1000s of employees every 6 months. Not to mention you are dealing with all types of people from park rats wanting to get a free pass to professional level folks.

Central HR looks good to Bean Counters and shareholders though.

 

[urungus]

https://www.powder.com/news/whistler-blackcomb-summer-skiing-cancelled

 

[BenedictGomez]

Central HR looks good to Bean Counters and shareholders though.

IBM just announced they're laying off 8,000 HR employees (which is most of them) and replacing them with AI. Seems difficult to imagine.

And the fact Vail runs everything out of a non mountain town in Colorado is sometimes really obvious. Like when you call customer service for a resort specific issue and the person on the end-of-the-line doesn't even know the very well-known local resort thing you're referring to because they've literally never been there. Completely useless. In fact, Vaill's phone peeps are so bad I'm surprised they don't just save even more money by replacing those people with AI as I cant imagine it would be worse.

 

[thetrailboss]

IBM just announced they're laying off 8,000 HR employees (which is most of them) and replacing them with AI. Seems difficult to imagine.

And the fact Vail runs everything out of a non mountain town in Colorado is sometimes really obvious. Like when you call customer service for a resort specific issue and the person on the end-of-the-line doesn't even know the very well-known local resort thing you're referring to because they've literally never been there. Completely useless. In fact, Vaill's phone peeps are so bad I'm surprised they don't just save even more money by replacing those people with AI as I cant imagine it would be worse.

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"AI. That is a great idea!"

 

[thetrailboss]

I don't think there's too much wondering going on, seeing as Katz was involved all along and one would expect Lynch's actions had buy in from the board on a strategic level.

I will be filing "canned with $2.2 million in severance and full access to all RSUs" under "problems I'd like to have", though. If anyone is looking for a well-paid scapegoat, please send me a PM.

True. The local Utah perspective was that the PCMR strike was a huge PR disaster. It seems that locals are pinning it on her. Anecdotally, I know that the hate is directed to Vail itself.......

 

[kbroderick]

IBM just announced they're laying off 8,000 HR employees (which is most of them) and replacing them with AI. Seems difficult to imagine.

And the fact Vail runs everything out of a non mountain town in Colorado is sometimes really obvious. Like when you call customer service for a resort specific issue and the person on the end-of-the-line doesn't even know the very well-known local resort thing you're referring to because they've literally never been there. Completely useless. In fact, Vaill's phone peeps are so bad I'm surprised they don't just save even more money by replacing those people with AI as I cant imagine it would be worse.

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I could see AI replacing a lot of HR work when it's routine paperwork and making sure all the boxes are checked on employment status changes. The tech I've seen would not be capable of dealing with situations that are truly unique, but IBM should know their own capabilities better than I do.

As far as the phone service, that's probably a feature, not a bug--by making it painful to actually accomplish anything on the phone, they can push more customers to asynchronous options including self service in the app and on the web.

 

[Edd]

AI and Vail seem a perfect match.

 

[deadheadskier]

I do have better experiences with the AI girl taking my order at the local pizza shop than I did calling Vail customer service people back in my Epic pass days.

 

[thetrailboss]

So now that Rob is back, who is going to now invest in Vail?

 

[jimmywilson69]

I invest in Vail every September... Then I use my investment until its fully in my favor

 

[thetrailboss]

As I said, it’s looking like Lynch is the scapegoat….

What Vail Resorts investors are expecting from new CEO Rob Katz at June 5 earnings call

The news that Vail Resorts‘ board of directors has terminated Kirsten Lynch as CEO and appointed Rob Katz to succeed her sent shockwaves through the ski industry on Tuesday, prompting several analysts to issue opinions...

www.vaildaily.com

 

[snoseek]

2.2 Million sure is a nice consolation prize. They sure seem focused on appeasing the shareholders which is fine but what about the paying customer?

 

[BenedictGomez]

Quite the headline really....


Quite a read...

 

[thetrailboss]

I haven’t seen anything in here about the parking lot expansion proposal or sewage issues at Sunapee.

How A Proposed Ski Resort Parking Lot Ignited An Environmental Battle

Environmentalists are concerned about the impact of a ski resort's dated wastewater system on the local watershed.

unofficialnetworks.com

Advocates say ski resort’s wastewater may contaminate Lake Sunapee. State regulators disagree.

At a Mount Sunapee advisory meeting Tuesday, members of Newbury’s Conservation Commission presented their findings on potential contamination coming from the resort’s wastewater system. But state regulators say the system’s conditions show no cause for concern.

www.nhpr.org

 

[BenedictGomez]

The locals in New Hampshire are obviously smarter than the locals in Utah. We should have said we found some endangered newt or toad by the Cabriolet parking lot.

 

[deadheadskier]

Was unaware of either. IMO, no additional parking capacity / crowds should be approved until the West Bowl is completed to absorb the additional traffic. The place feels maxed out for what it is today and I don't see additional parking doing anything but making it worse until new lifts and terrain are added.

The timeline should probably be

Water Treatment upgrade
West Bowl
New parking