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VAIL SUCKS

thebigo

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It's hard to pass a sub 500 dollar full pass. I'm also a midweek skier so that makes it even harder. If I was a weekend guy I would never consider it at any price
Gunny midweek and ragged full are both sub $500.
 

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Gunny midweek and ragged full are both sub $500.
I regret not jumping on the ragged pass early. I had that my first season back and it was a good time. Gunstock is a bit pricey for what it is but I actually really like the mtn. I should consider that one. It is equal distant as sunnapee for me and crotched is closer but I consider gunstock a fun hill and well run.
 

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Hypocrite is too strong a word for it. Self interest always takes precedent.

I'm renewing my Epic pass. That's a definite YES. I have a credit from the previous season that's carried over to the next. That, combined with the 20% discount, means I can get the Epic Local for under $500!

The only hesitation is me trying to decide if I want to upgrade to a full Epic.

we jumped all over the Epic Veteran Pass for $447 and dependents get that price too!
 

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would be nice to go back to whistler one day or check out telluride and crested butte for the first time
Whistler is one of the reason I'm vacillating between the Epic Local and the full Epic. The Local only gets 10 days on Whistler/Vail/BC combine, whilst the full pass is unlimited on them. I'm not too drawn to Vail (parking expense), and BC while nice, isn't going to take up 10 days.

So, if the Canadian border is fully open, it makes sense to get the full Epic to get more days for Whistler. Not to mention adding Kicking Horse and the other Canadian Rockies resorts.

But if the border is not open, it's $200 extra for just Telluride, which I may or may not go. (Crested Butte is already covered in the Epic Local).
 

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i am a big fan of the RCR resorts, specifically kicking horse and fernie.

one thing about kicking horse tho, and this really truly isn't me trying to sound all hardcore and holier than thou, but it truly is an experts only mountain. there is very little to ski there if you arent interested in 4000 continuous vertical feet of steep challenging skiing, most starting in chutes and couloirs.

fernie is a gem, and an all around sort of place with something for everyone, and a great town

kimberley has eastern vibes bc it doesn't go above tree line
 

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one thing about kicking horse tho, and this really truly isn't me trying to sound all hardcore and holier than thou, but it truly is an experts only mountain.
Already been there once. Disagree on the "very little to ski if..." part. I'd say it's a mountain advanced skiers would totally enjoy, and a paradise for experts. Would love to go back.

But that hinges on the Canadian border fully open (no quarantine).
 

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Whistler is one of the reason I'm vacillating between the Epic Local and the full Epic. The Local only gets 10 days on Whistler/Vail/BC combine, whilst the full pass is unlimited on them. I'm not too drawn to Vail (parking expense), and BC while nice, isn't going to take up 10 days.

So, if the Canadian border is fully open, it makes sense to get the full Epic to get more days for Whistler. Not to mention adding Kicking Horse and the other Canadian Rockies resorts.

But if the border is not open, it's $200 extra for just Telluride, which I may or may not go. (Crested Butte is already covered in the Epic Local).
Fly in - you can do that now!
 

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Already been there once. Disagree on the "very little to ski if..." part. I'd say it's a mountain advanced skiers would totally enjoy, and a paradise for experts. Would love to go back.

But that hinges on the Canadian border fully open (no quarantine).

I agree! I have been there only once and we were with some intermediates and they did enter Crystal Bowl. There are some trails that go down the middle. They are very boring IMO but they can lap the lift there. More fun to come in from the sides of the bowls Outside of Crystal Bowl it is a different ball game and advanced to Experts only.
 

fbrissette

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But that hinges on the Canadian border fully open (no quarantine).
As of today, the Canadian border is fully open (land and air) to fully vaccinated Americans. The 'essential travel' and 'quarantine' requirements are gone. You still need a negative 72-hour test but that's it.
 

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Fly in - you can do that now!
I think the requirement is the same for both (unlike the US side).

I have another month to see if they stay the same course in the face of Delta variant. If the border open survive the latest outbreak, I'll buy into the potential of skiing Canada the coming season.
 

ScottySkis

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Hope this works out best for us people who enjoy winter activities:
"""
NEWS: Vail Resorts to Replace Rob Katz with New CEO
Kirsten Lynch, the Company's chief marketing officer will replace Rob Katz as CEO of Vail Resorts on November 1st. Rob Katz will become Executive Chairperson of their board of directors and will continue be remain fully active and engaged with key strategic decisions and priorities.

Press Release: https://investors.vailresorts.com/n...esorts-announces-ceo-and-executive-succession
""
 

thebigo

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Hope this works out best for us people who enjoy winter activities:
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NEWS: Vail Resorts to Replace Rob Katz with New CEO
Kirsten Lynch, the Company's chief marketing officer will replace Rob Katz as CEO of Vail Resorts on November 1st. Rob Katz will become Executive Chairperson of their board of directors and will continue be remain fully active and engaged with key strategic decisions and priorities.

Press Release: https://investors.vailresorts.com/n...esorts-announces-ceo-and-executive-succession
""
Thanks for posting scotty, I can only assume this to be good news but would defer to those with a better understanding of the industry.
 

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Don't see what would be different.

Katz will "continue to be active". The marketing head will become the CEO.

Me think? This is a move to appease the "gender quota". Nothing will change.
 

deadheadskier

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Don't see what would be different.

Katz will "continue to be active". The marketing head will become the CEO.

Me think? This is a move to appease the "gender quota". Nothing will change.

Not really. This is a succession plan for the company. If you know anyone who works high up in the Vail organization, they'll tell you that if not for the pandemic, Katz likely would be retired by now. He agreed to stick around to help navigate these turbulent waters

For 2021-22, probably little changes, but perhaps the following season, Katz will fully step away.

Time will tell
 

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So in a few weeks or so, all of us that put down $49 for the Epic Pass will be charged for the remaining balance. Guess they'll wait until right after that to announce how much they are going to ream us to park at places like Mount Snow.
 

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Not really. This is a succession plan for the company. If you know anyone who works high up in the Vail organization, they'll tell you that if not for the pandemic, Katz likely would be retired by now. He agreed to stick around to help navigate these turbulent waters

At 48. Retired.

CEOs of roll-up companies typically leave a few years before the implosion, because they know better than anyone when the detonator's timed to go off.

My prophecy will come to pass.
 
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