VAIL SUCKS

[jaytrem]

I just got a call from a buddy skiing at Jack Frost, he said they had a line of almost 200 people waiting to get tickets. He also said the lift lines were getting so long that he left at 11:30 and having basically only three short runs open, it was not worth staying. He drove 3 hours to get there

It's been way to cold to have so few runs open. Thread title say it all.

 

[asnowmobiler]

Yep... total BS that they don’t have More open, Blue is way ahead of them.
My Buddy did say they were blowing on a lot of the closed runs today.

 

[thebigo]

The triple at attitash was stopping a lot today, definitely concerning. They have blasted a ton of snow, which is nice. Kinda sucks to have take your boots off to drive between attitash and bear peak if you want to ski the 2 open trails. Skiing was nothing special, scratchy for the small amount of people there. Tomorrow should be crowded and icy, unless they can open more terrain

How was the beginner terrain looking? My wife is only planning to ski if she can bring our three year old, I would cancel her reservation but I have no way of knowing if there will be any beginner terrain open. The odd thing is that they were blowing the beginner triple weeks ago, cannot imagine there is not enough snow?

As for your other comment, there appears to be a decided preference to blow trails extremely deep over opening more terrain. I am guessing that we will not see resurfacing. The depth on velocity at crotch is ridiculous.

 

[MidnightJester]

So speaking of VAIL and EPIC to help some of the Day trippers and Day ticket riders avoid the ticket window line. You can preload new unused single day ticket onto any other EPIC day ticket from past use. Then I got a refund at the end of the day with my Vermont 4pass with no line at all.

 

[jg17]

So far this season, 2 days Ikon (both Crystal) and 2 days Epic (1 each Stevens Pass and Hunter). Crystal has been handling everything MUCH better across the board, with Hunter the worst of the 3. The biggest complaint I've heard at Crystal is that people skiing without reservations are causing capacity issues since the passes aren't blocked, just audited and warnings sent at the end of the day if you don't have a reservation. If Ikon/Alterra can figure out their system to block access for people without reservations, they'll be far and away the winner for how this season is being handled.

I get that this season is unlike anything before and the resorts couldn't be reasonably expected to get it perfect on day 1. However, Vail resorts everywhere seem to be having the same issues, while Alterra/Ikon issues seem to differ by resort. Alterra/Ikon resorts seem to at least be listening and updating plans per resort as they go, while Vail complaints seem to be ignored across the board.

 

[abc]

However, Vail resorts everywhere seem to be having the same issues, while Alterra/Ikon issues seem to differ by resort. Alterra/Ikon resorts seem to at least be listening and updating plans per resort as they go, while Vail complaints seem to be ignored across the board.

The difference being, Ikon is still operating as a collection of individual resorts. Whilst Vail is enforcing corporate policy to every mountain.

In this pandemic infused season of this, big behemoth like Vail simply can't react nimbly like individual mountain, which are better at adopting to the changing restrictions and such. Not to mention every states have different pandemic related restriction and policies. Vail's one size fits all approach is the dead's nail.

 

[sugarbushskier]

What am I looking at on the Mt Snow webcams at 9:33 AM on a Sunday morning? Are they not live or are lifts not running?

 

[icecoast1]

What am I looking at on the Mt Snow webcams at 9:33 AM on a Sunday morning? Are they not live or are lifts not running?

All they have now is one pointed at the summit snowstake and top of lift 17. The ones in the base areas disappeared.

According to Mount Snows twitter page, which thanks to Vail you now must go to for anything remotely close to accurate reports, lift 9 was the only lift with an issue this morning and that is now resolved

 

[abc]

What am I looking at on the Mt Snow webcams at 9:33 AM on a Sunday morning? Are they not live or are lifts not running?

Doesn't even load for me

 

[abc]

All they have now is one pointed at the summit snowstake and top of lift 17. The ones in the base areas disappeared.

So it's now a Vail policy that all base area cam will be disabled so people can't see the horrendous long lines?

(and the potentially lack of social distancing from the prying eyes of state authorities?)

 

[FBGM]

So it's now a Vail policy that all base area cam will be disabled so people can't see the horrendous long lines?

(and the potentially lack of social distancing from the prying eyes of state authorities?)

Yeah, that’s the deal. If NJ Joey can’t see the rain or lines or mud or whatever, they will come. Don’t want to advertise the truth. Only show pics of the good. Smoke and Mirrors. Dirtbags.

 

[abc]

Yeah, that’s the deal. If NJ Joey can’t see the rain or lines or mud or whatever, they will come. Don’t want to advertise the truth. Only show pics of the good. Smoke and Mirrors. Dirtbags.

So the dark base area webcam is the new ubiquitous "pack powder" in snow report of the old days now?

For Vail that is

 

[thebigo]

I would love to hear a good explanation as to why neither wildcat nor attitash can run their carpet the weekend before Christmas. I asked attitash on Saturday whether the carpet would run sunday, the response was 'we hope so'. Somehow crotched and sunapee can run their carpets but attitash and wildcat can't?

There also appeared to be mechanical issues with the triple today. I was hiking the carpet with my 3 year old but it appeared they ran the chair empty a couple times, shut it down, then reloaded.

 

[Smellytele]

I would to hear a good explanation as to why neither wildcat nor attitash can run their carpet the weekend before Christmas. I asked attitash on Saturday whether the carpet would run sunday, the response was 'we hope so'. Somehow crotched and sunapee can runtheir carpets but attitash and wildcat can't?

There also appeared to be mechanical issues with the triple today. I was hiking the carpet with my 3 year old but it appeared they ran the chair empty a couple times, shut it down, then reloaded.

Not shocking on the triple. I have been there when it overheated and actually caught on fire with actual flame shooting out of it not just smoke.

 

[xlr8r]

Attitash Summit Triple is now going to be closed tomorrow for maintenance. So Attitash is back to really only having Illusion open. What a joke

 

[Smellytele]

Attitash Summit Triple is now going to be closed tomorrow for maintenance. So Attitash is back to really only having Illusion open. What a joke

But who cares their western resorts are getting new lifts as is flatkemo.

 

[deadheadskier]

Short of a massive turn around, I'll be taking our pass spend to Cannon next season. Sucks because I love Wildcat and Stowe plus having Crotched fairly close, but the snowmaking efforts and customer service has been so piss poor, Vail doesn't deserve my money.

Hard to believe Peak ran their resorts so much better

 

[Mainer]

I called attitash around 9 this morning when they tweeted learning center would open. Guest services had no idea what I was talking about when I called. Said they were only running summit triple on attitash. I said how can u run learning center If only triple was running, she said u had to get to learning area from Summit triple. So we went to wildcat, my kids did great on an overcrowded and icy polecat. I basically did tight turns/snowplow behind my kids to protect them from the terrible skiers going too fast on the limited terrain. Attitash did open the learning triple at some point based on tweets. Left wildcat at 4 not a snow gun running, car temp said 25. Being a weekend skier Sucks now that I have kids but definitely not as much as vail. Make Attitash Great Again

 

[thebigo]

Same here, we are done. Vail has made every effort to inform us that they do not want our money. We sold a rental property on the seacoast last summer with every intention of buying a condo in bartlett. One positive from covid is that we decided to rent for a year due to the overheated real estate market. We will do a seasonal rental at sunday river until vail leaves town, at which time we will return to the valley. Maybe add a pats or gunstock midweek/night pass if there is such a thing.

I don't know that I have any issue with the snowmaking effort, the problem is getting the whales pushed out and open. There are massive whales all over the place on closed trails at attitash and bear. Best guess they are saving them for the holiday week?

 

[thebigo]

Mainer: I may be reading your post incorrectly but were you able to switch your reservation same day?

The learning center triple ran all morning. Guest services at both wildcat and attitash let me know of it would run when I called on Saturday.