chuckstah
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That's gonna be a shit show, opening on one of the busiest days of the season with lots of passes blacked out down the street in VT. Hard pass.
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VAIL SUCKS
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Probably opening to alleviate pressue on the other NH Epic spots
I think the solution is pretty simple. Offer a free baggage storage area away from the dining areas in lodges with good signage. Build the cost into the passes. Don't nickel and dime people.
abc
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I don't think too many people are against bags in the lodge per se. What they object, is bags haphazardly left all over the lodge.
I would think most people wouldn't mind putting their bags in the bag check. Whether they want to pay for that or not is a different matter. I even think a good portion of them are willing to pay a little, as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Free bag check would be a close to perfect solution.
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drjeff
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Gotta have enough space for it though, which often takes away from other potential revenue generating space in a lodge, which if one is honest probably spends less days in a calendar year generating revenue than not.
The Stratton main base lodge is a great example of this. They don't allow bags to be left in the table areas (staff will constantly remind you of this while booting up in the AM and remove your bags if you leave them there when you head out to the hill.
They have a free bag check down a cubby lined hallway off of the main table area in the lodge. That staffed free bag check on most weekend days from what I have experienced over the last 15yrs or so that my kids have regularly had races at Stratton fills up quickly, then the free cubbies fill up quickly, then bags left on the floor next to the cubbies start piling up, then by lunchtime, there's barely a 1 person lane to walk through in the hallway to/from the bag check room to the table area. Honestly surprised that the fire marshal once or twice over the years hasn't taken issue with this..
I fully like having my boot bag in the lodge where I boot up. When I am not at Mount Snow, where my family are members of the Mount Snow ski club where we have our own locker, locker room area with cubbies and lunch rooms with even more cubbies for boot bag storage, I am always seeking out a bag check (free or paid) or a paid locker (I had a boot bag stolen one night back in the late 90's from a free cubby area at Ski Sundown in CT so I am very pro monitored or locked bag storage!), sometimes though with what it can and has morphed into at some ski areas, the bag storage situation in the lodge has gotten a bit out of hand.
Think about it, isn't a non base area mid mountain or Summit Lodge where folks aren't storing boot bags all day much easier to move around in and sit down at a table and not have to move bags out of the way while doing so?
Pros and cons for each. Guessing that many places are thinking more about a no, or limited bags in the lodge policy after last year when they saw how it changed lodge use a bit. I know I have heard a couple of ski area GM's on various ski industry podcasts say that they're going to give this topic some thought after seeing *SOME* plusses last season..
There were a bunch of things about last year's COVID season that got many in the industry rethinking how they have been doing certain things, and if that "traditional way" of thought is still the best way of thought
abc
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Some people don't bring bags in because they change in their car. But many other don't like to boot up in the car. Their bags needs to go somewhere.
Whether there's extra space or not, those bags will be in the lodge. So it's just a choice of either under the table or in a (free or paid) bag check.
Smellytele
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Always Boot up in the lot but sometimes ski pant up in the lot as well. Matters how far I am driving.
drjeff
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Depends on how far I am traveling to the ski area.
An hour or less and the base layers and ski pants are on for the drive.
An hour or more, sometimes I change there sometimes on for the drive. Depends on the temperature that day
Drive to resort in base layers, drive home in ski pants if I’m too lazy to remove them. Always boot up in lot unless girlfriend is against it.
Same formula. I'll add that any commute over 30 minutes and I don't wear my ski socks. Having sweaty feet / socks to start the day is a recipe for cold feet for me.
drjeff
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Yup.
My ski socks almost always travel to the ski area I am driving to loosely in the cuff area of my boots with an open hand warmer packet in my boot. That way I am changing into warm, dry socks which then go into a warm boot
thebigo
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I got a 15 minute limit. Less than 15 mins everything but my right boot is on in the room. More than 15 minutes and my balls start to sweat, it is shorts in the car and full change in the lodge. I hated changing and booting up in the car after longer drives. With the exception of SR, everywhere I have skied this year has allowed boot bags, I just left my bag outside on the deck at sr.
Never considered putting on ski socks at the mountain, guess I have never had cold feet?
The one I never understood is people that put their contacts in at the mountain.
Never considered putting on ski socks at the mountain, guess I have never had cold feet?
The one I never understood is people that put their contacts in at the mountain.
Warm feet and dry testicles is the way
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Yeah socks and gloves on the dash hand warmers in the boots. Start warm stay warm.
abc
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I'm short and small. And my car has a one-touch power seat. So I change in the car unless the drive is less than 1/2 hr.
No socks though. Those stay in the bag. I carry 2 pairs of socks. Change into dry socks after lunch
I actually prefer to change in the lodge. But if the walk to the lodge is long, I'd trade changing in the car to avoid having to shoulder all the extra clothing.
I HATE booting up in the car. I just hate it. My boots are rather hard to get into. Trying to get them on in the car is just a struggle, one which I'd rather not endure unless absolutely necessary.
No socks though. Those stay in the bag. I carry 2 pairs of socks. Change into dry socks after lunch
I actually prefer to change in the lodge. But if the walk to the lodge is long, I'd trade changing in the car to avoid having to shoulder all the extra clothing.
I HATE booting up in the car. I just hate it. My boots are rather hard to get into. Trying to get them on in the car is just a struggle, one which I'd rather not endure unless absolutely necessary.
Fwiw-I only wear contacts for skiing but I can’t read with them in and I get an adverse reaction to wearing them extended periods. I put them on at home but often take them out in the lodge As soon as I’m done skiing. I can totally understand why someone would wait to put them in at the mountain.
My wife has been doing the 2 socks a day thing for the last 5 seasons or so. I gotta say, it makes a lot of sense to put on a dry pair of socks midway through the day. I’m too lazy to do it but my feet sweat profusely and I probably should.I'm short and small. And my car has a one-touch power seat. So I change in the car unless the drive is less than 1/2 hr.
No socks though. Those stay in the bag. I carry 2 pairs of socks. Change into dry socks after lunch
I actually prefer to change in the lodge. But if the walk to the lodge is long, I'd trade changing in the car to avoid having to shoulder all the extra clothing.
I HATE booting up in the car. I just hate it. My boots are rather hard to get into. Trying to get them on in the car is just a struggle, one which I'd rather not endure unless absolutely necessary.
