VAIL SUCKS

[RichT]

EPIC Mix Stats: Has anyone else noticed that the EPIC Mix app stops tracking your vertical a long time before you stop skiing? Not that it means anything unless you’re competing with others to see who buys the beer at the end of the day but I noticed today that if you expand the “lift’s today” it stopped tracking me right before lunch, on another day about an hour and a half into the day... Before anyone says anything I would rather them spend $ on snow making and lift operations than making sure EPIC mix works...

I deleted that junk app, I use "Ski Tracks" I like it.

 

[catskillman]

how is it that Wildcat is only 50% open when they sent snowmakers up from CO and CA? Is the system just not working...the trails are not covered by snowmaking that are closed?

 

[pinion]

how is it that Wildcat is only 50% open when they sent snowmakers up from CO and CA? Is the system just not working...the trails are not covered by snowmaking that are closed?

Those guys left weeks ago, so there's been no snow-making to recover from the 2x thaw/rain events since.

2022 snow-making consisted of: Middle/Lower Polecat, Cat Track, Middle Wildcat, and Bobcat. The imported snow-makers got Upper Polecat, Lynx t2b, and Upper Catapult worked out. Plus some extra on top of the previously stated trails and some bonus on Wild Kitten that didn't last. There may be some other smaller spots I am forgetting.

 

[da-bum]

EPIC Mix Stats: Has anyone else noticed that the EPIC Mix app stops tracking your vertical a long time before you stop skiing? Not that it means anything unless you’re competing with others to see who buys the beer at the end of the day but I noticed today that if you expand the “lift’s today” it stopped tracking me right before lunch, on another day about an hour and a half into the day... Before anyone says anything I would rather them spend $ on snow making and lift operations than making sure EPIC mix works...

They have 2 way of tracking.

First way is via the RFID reader at the gantry right before entrance to the lifts. That records the lifts taken and calculates your vert, assuming you have to come back down instead of having to be airlifted away by a chopper. This assumes they are functioning properly. I've had situations where the whole thing is not operating so it missed my verts from those lifts. Other times, it assumed I went up multiple times in the 15 minutes that I was waiting to go up the lift.

The second way is via the phone's GPS, where it also tracks distance traveled. From what I experienced, if the app is in the background, the phone will eventually put it to sleep so it stops recording. Either keep it in the foreground or disable battery saver mode for that app. I once had it in the foreground and at the end of the day, I realized it sucked down 500MB of data. So you probably have to disable background data for the app.

I use the app as a redundancy to Strava and Ski Tracks. I also use it to check ski trails, lift line wait time (not really accurate), make reservations to cafeterias, so there is some use to it.

 

[drjeff]

Nice morning at Attitash today. The 1" predicted for overnight turned into 3" with on/off light snow all morning. Variable winds on the top roughly 1/4 of both peaks that had some exposed areas a bit blown off, put overall a bunch of powder and packed powder. Summit triple and both quads at Bear running, the Yankee is still down for replacement of a hydraulic tensioner in the Summit terminal.

Hadn't skied Attitash in about 20yrs, forgot how much fun the terrain off the Summit Triple is, even with the SLOW ride to the top (I've done that 5 times thus far prior to meeting my daughter who's racing at Bear Peak the next few days, for lunch after her morning training session).

Such a shame to see some of the lack of effort Vail has put into this place this season.

Lifts have been no more than a 5 chair wait, if not just ski on, and if it wasn't for the probably 500 or so Highschool racers, their coaches, and various members of their family who choose to ski today, even during NH vacation week, this place would be a ghost town today.

Time to go rack up another 10k or so of verts before the kid finishes her afternoon training..

 

[snoseek]

Nice morning at Attitash today. The 1" predicted for overnight turned into 3" with on/off light snow all morning. Variable winds on the top roughly 1/4 of both peaks that had some exposed areas a bit blown off, put overall a bunch of powder and packed powder. Summit triple and both quads at Bear running, the Yankee is still down for replacement of a hydraulic tensioner in the Summit terminal.

Hadn't skied Attitash in about 20yrs, forgot how much fun the terrain off the Summit Triple is, even with the SLOW ride to the top (I've done that 5 times thus far prior to meeting my daughter who's racing at Bear Peak the next few days, for lunch after her morning training session).

Such a shame to see some of the lack of effort Vail has put into this place this season.

Lifts have been no more than a 5 chair wait, if not just ski on, and if it wasn't for the probably 500 or so Highschool racers, their coaches, and various members of their family who choose to ski today, even during NH vacation week, this place would be a ghost town today.

Time to go rack up another 10k or so of verts before the kid finishes her afternoon training..View attachment 53437

I've been saying all along attitash is one of the most underrated areas in nh. The terrain is fun as hell and it's not a flat mountain at all.

 

[2Planker]

All true, but for those of us who have been AT/WC faithful, It's a HUGE fucking shame to see what Vail has done to both places.

Every time we now go to BW, Shawnee or Black, I run in to folks that used to be "regulars" or employees at AT/WC.

Even on the chair at BW yesterday.... The conversation was all about Vail & the WC/AT mess that they have created.

Rumor is of a possible new MWV Pass coming for 22/23

 

[Teleskier]

Another article on the Vail effect:
Longer lines, less time skiing at Hunter: complaints about Vail Resorts snowball

 

[meff]

Rumor is of a possible new MWV Pass coming for 22/23

Separate from the White Mountain Super Pass that was announced already by Cranmore and BW?

 

[jimmywilson69]

What are they going to blame when there is no Pandemic????

 

[2Planker]

Separate from the White Mountain Super Pass that was announced already by Cranmore and BW?

Similar to Conway's Chamber Pass, but available to everyone.
Chamber Pass has BW, Cranmore, Shawnee, Black & King Pine, and all the XC places too.

 

[Kingslug20]

What are they going to blame when there is no Pandemic????

Trump

 

[xlr8r]

I've been saying all along attitash is one of the most underrated areas in nh. The terrain is fun as hell and it's not a flat mountain at all.

I was at Attitash both Saturday and Sunday last weekend. My only 2 days all season at a Vail resort as I was skiing with relatives. I was expecting a disaster as Flying Bear was broken down to start Saturday, but the weekend ended up being great. Terrain wise Attitash is very underrated, Bear Peak is one of my favorite pods in New England. I spend less time on the Attitash peak side because of the painfully slow Triple, and also I find the Attitash side gets icier quicker than Bear. They got Flying Bear Fixed around 10:30Am, and got two phenomenal runs down an ungroomed Wandering Skis. They didn't groom Wandering Skis or Morning Star for Saturday I think because they expected the lift to be down all day. Lower Ptarmigan and White horse was also a delightful Powder field all weekend long if you ducked the rope. Illusion was closed for racing all weekend, and it sucks that they never made snow on Avenger this year.

Over the weekend I did ride with a slopeside condo owner, Ski Patrol, an Ambassador, and an Instructor. So there was a lot of lift ride talk about Vail's failings in running the place. Some of the scuttlebutt I got were that they only have 2 groomer operators on staff, and 8 snowmakers. All the snowmakers are now running lifts for the rest of the season. With only 2 groomer operators, they would not be able to groom every trail, if trails like Avenger, White Horse, etc that never got snowmaking were open. They do hope to run Kachina next year as the Ski Team wants to use Trillium for training and racing, they expect the park to stay on Moonbeam next season. They are thinking about changing Wilfred's GAWM to a blue when the new Summit Expresss lift is installed.

I still hold out hope that Attitash can improve in the coming years. I love it for its quirks, and like it much more than Wildcat.

 

[ss20]

What are they going to blame when there is no Pandemic????

War in Ukraine.

Too much sunshine.

Limited operations on days ending in "y".

 

[eatskisleep]

All true, but for those of us who have been AT/WC faithful, It's a HUGE fucking shame to see what Vail has done to both places.

Every time we now go to BW, Shawnee or Black, I run in to folks that used to be "regulars" or employees at AT/WC.

Even on the chair at BW yesterday.... The conversation was all about Vail & the WC/AT mess that they have created.

Rumor is of a possible new MWV Pass coming for 22/23

Including Black on the WMV pass? Where can you buy the pass?

 

[eatskisleep]

Someone just sent this to me as I am not on Facebook:

 

[machski]

I have to say, we've been out at Vail and BC this week, and the amount of lift stops/slows for misloads is immense (at least on Vail's frontside). After watching all week, it's not a cell phone issue at all. It's the damn Epic Mix gantries. Folks think that is where you are suppose to wait for next chair, but in actuality, that is at least 1-2 ski lengths ahead. So they start out for the chair too far out, don't push out anywhere near fast enough given the extra yards, and voila, misloaded chairs.

 

[thetrailboss]

View attachment 53467Someone just sent this to me as I am not on Facebook:

Wow, just wow.

 

[drjeff]

View attachment 53467Someone just sent this to me as I am not on Facebook:

Bear Peak has Illusion closed through Sunday for the Eastern Highschool Ski Championships. Or atleast it's scheduled to go through Sunday, although there is talk of moving Sunday's scheduled race to Saturday because of the likely wet weather on Sunday predicted.

And as an FYI, the racers and their coaches and family members had roughly 1/2 of the Bear parking lot filled up today, and there weren't very many other folks on the mountain from what I experienced

 

[2Planker]

Including Black on the WMV pass? Where can you buy the pass?

Conway "Chamber Pass" is available to employees of Chamber of Commerce business's
i think it's 5 days each at BW, Shawnee, Black, Cranmore, and King Pine. Plus all the XC places too.