VAIL SUCKS

[Kingslug20]

Why tell skiers about inbound avi danger...they might get...hurt..

 

[fbrissette]

I agree that transparency is best, but it's mind boggling that avy control would miss that big of a wind slab on a spot with relatively heavy traffic.

 

[Kingslug20]

In bound avis happen here and there. Several at Snowbird through the years. Its tough to control mountains..they have minds..of their own.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

im not sure if this is the same incident but apparently someone died. i apologize for reposting snowbrains, which is the fucking worst.

Inbounds Avalanche at Whistler Blackcomb, BC, Kills Local Man - SnowBrains

A 34-year-old local man was killed by a class 1 avalanche inbounds at Whistler Blackcomb, BC, on Tuesday 5th April 2022.

snowbrains.com

 

[fbrissette]

Not the same incident. First one was on blackcomb, one guy caught, no harm, just lost equipment. This one was on whistler. A size 1 avy is unlikely to bury you. Unlucky.

 

[fbrissette]

Two inbound avalanches in two days, one death, trying to bury the first incident... this is going to add to Vail's annus horribilus..

 

[Kingslug20]

Irresponsible...

 

[raisingarizona]

I agree that transparency is best, but it's mind boggling that avy control would miss that big of a wind slab on a spot with relatively heavy traffic.

I don’t know anything about conditions or anything else related to this incident but slabs like that can develop really quickly during a heavy wind event.

 

[Kingslug20]

And its the biggest resort in N America..hard to control...hiding what happened is not the way to go..

 

[fbrissette]

I don’t know anything about conditions or anything else related to this incident but slabs like that can develop really quickly during a heavy wind event.

True but a slab that big still takes hours of snow transport. And this is Whistler-blackcomb, untracked snow lasts minutes... I bet this slide happened within one hour of the glacier opening. As to the fatality, it appears it was a cornice breaking.

 

[Kingslug20]

Looks like it was under a permanently closed area..steep. It sux but skiing even inbounds in these areas after a big snowfall is risky. Most people believe that its all under control...its not.

 

[ThatGuy]

Looks like it was under a permanently closed area..steep. It sux but skiing even inbounds in these areas after a big snowfall is risky. Most people believe that its all under control...its not.

And that’s probably why Vail would prefer to cover it up. Keep people in LaLa land with their Disneyfication of ski resorts.

 

[Kingslug20]

Ive been there twice..Whistler is no joke up there...

 

[ss20]

Looks like it was under a permanently closed area..steep. It sux but skiing even inbounds in these areas after a big snowfall is risky. Most people believe that its all under control...its not.

I was surprised to learn how often in-bounds slides are since starting to work at Alta and keeping in touch with the local area. I heard of people getting swept up in small slides at Alta and Brighton this year in open, in-bounds terrain.

 

[snoseek]

I was surprised to learn how often in-bounds slides are since starting to work at Alta and keeping in touch with the local area. I heard of people getting swept up in small slides at Alta and Brighton this year in open, in-bounds terrain.

I've see them come across the road on the commute. Gets real up there!

 

[Kingslug20]

Alta and Snowbird are pretty much entirely avi zones...avi forecasting science was developed there. Avis killed so many miners..they had to do something.
Its where i took my avi level 1 course..best thing i ever did...helps to know a thing or two when you're out there..

 

[ss20]

I've see them come across the road on the commute. Gets real up there!

Yeah pretty much all the 20 year+ veterans here have a story about helping/rescuing/unburying someone on the LCC road.

It "got real" on a storm in December when they did not close the main road around the Superior slide path. We were all stuck for a while (it was the longest commute home of the season) right in front of it. I did not think much of it. The next day people in the locker room were talking about how they would had their passengers looking up Superior in case of a slide coming, and were furious UDOT routed them that way.

 

[ss20]

Alta and Snowbird are pretty much entirely avi zones...avi forecasting science was developed there. Avis killed so many miners..they had to do something.
Its where i took my avi level 1 course..best thing i ever did...helps to know a thing or two when you're out there..

Yeah they do Avi 1 courses free for employees in December. Next season I'll probably do mine.

I got caught in a 10-15ft "snuff" slide on a 30" day in Glory Hole bowl. Weird, scary feeling. I wasn't sure if it was a true "slide" til I got to the bottom and you could see my tracks enter, and see them exit, and noticeable debris in between. Wake-up call for me for sure.

Nearly everyday I cross over the only permanently closed area at Alta, the snake pit. There's a few articles online but I've also heard a lot of stories.... a lot of deaths in that small footprint.

 

[Kingslug20]

Skied the comma chute before they closed it due to an avi death in that area.
Tux ravine had the snow slide on me a little..knocks you right down...

 

[urungus]

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