"We require a firm commitment from our employees to deliver an EPIC experience. Hope the kid enjoys Pleasant Mountain. I hear it is a quaint place. It would be a shame if somethin' happened to it."
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VAIL SUCKS
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"We require a firm commitment from our employees to deliver an EPIC experience. Hope the kid enjoys Pleasant Mountain. I hear it is a quaint place. It would be a shame if somethin' happened to it."
Funniest thing I have seen all day,lol
"We require a firm commitment from our employees to deliver an EPIC experience. Hope the kid enjoys Pleasant Mountain. I hear it is a quaint place. It would be a shame if somethin' happened to it."
Brand new lift and nobody to run it!!!!
I can’t believe how far Attitash has fallen. It used to be the shit back in the day. Now it’s just shit.
Attitash update: LiftBlog is reporting that the Summit Triple replacement has been approved by the NFS.
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NiceAttitash update: LiftBlog is reporting that the Summit Triple replacement has been approved by the NFS.
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Newpylong
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...and just like the rumor/excuse of Forest Service pushback for a possible replacement by previous owner(s) is kaput. Yep, that's me saying Vail at least tried.
Yeah but vail sucks
raisingarizona
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You gotta have money to have influence and the FS goes through rec staff faster than McDonalds sells French fries. You can have a NO person one year and the next year a new, often younger and enthusiastic person gets the position and signs a ton of shit to be completed.
OR, they were using the FS as an excuse. That's often a thing too
You gotta have money to have influence and the FS goes through rec staff faster than McDonalds sells French fries. You can have a NO person one year and the next year a new, often younger and enthusiastic person gets the position and signs a ton of shit to be completed.
OR, they were using the FS as an excuse. That's often a thing too
(How cute. People think that the USFS actually HAD a choice in the decision).
You gotta have money to have influence and the FS goes through rec staff faster than McDonalds sells French fries. You can have a NO person one year and the next year a new, often younger and enthusiastic person gets the position and signs a ton of shit to be completed.
OR, they were using the FS as an excuse. That's often a thing too
The current WMNF supervisor (that signed off on this) has been with the USFS for about 20 years now, although he did only become the supervisor of the WMNF 2 years ago. So certainly possible a previous supervisor would have said no. I'm still betting more on it just having been an excuse and the permit was never even attempted.
raisingarizona
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Most USFS employees are lifers and they get moved around a lot. But still, I'm not doubting that possibility either. A company like Vail tends to get their way and as far as the previous owners it's a pretty darn normal behavior for corporate, bureaucratic organizations to use someone else as an excuse or a scapegoat.
urungus
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New Creekside lifts won't be ready for opening day, Whistler Blackcomb confirms
With Red Chair 'further along' than gondola due to shipping delays, free shuttles between Creekside and Village will aim to help ease congestion
machski
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Have to say I cannot blame Vail for this (other than knowingly switching out the only 2 lifts to serve Creekside in the same offseason). That has to suck to see the Gondi rope arrive in San Diego and then just sit there for weeks waiting on the shipping transfer.New Creekside lifts won't be ready for opening day, Whistler Blackcomb confirms
With Red Chair 'further along' than gondola due to shipping delays, free shuttles between Creekside and Village will aim to help ease congestionwww.piquenewsmagazine.com
machski
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Well, given all the snow out west, Vail has been opening many of it's resorts early. This weekend, not just Heavenly but Kirkwood and Northstar are all opening early. Palisades, which used to push topen as early as they could? Nope, too busy finishing the interconnect gondi and Red Dog chairs apparently.
drjeff
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Thar interconnect gondi they're installing at Palisades is an absolute BEAST of a lift.
machski
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I suppose, I think Wild Blue at Steamboat is beefier (once stage 2 is built next year anyway)
drjeff
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Agree!
My wife and I are literally looking at the schematics of that full Wild Blue expansion for the '23-24 season on the couch tonight and seriously discussing getting IKON's next season and going to Steamboat to check it out in what will be our first season (the '23-24 season) when BOTH of our kids are out of the house and in college leaving us in a kid free home for the 1st time in almost 20yrs!
Steamboat is a great town. Lots to do and still authentic. It is slowly changing though. I know some locals and they are not thrilled with the crowding. If you do go, be sure to visit Strawberry Hotsprings, the Old Town Hotsprings, and at least do an afternoon or evening at Howelsen Hill (the oldest continuously operating ski area in Colorado). Historically, Sundays are free ski days for everyone at Howelsen Hill. Ohana makes some really cool LOCAL souvenir wear. A stop to the historic F.M. Light and Sons on Main Street is a must to get that Stetson hat or western wear.
Honestly I think the Wild Blue is overkill. It will help with moving folks out of the base, but when you consider that there was a six-pack, a learner double, and a gondola there already, then it should give you pause to consider what that says about crowding. Portions of the base area will remind you of the ASC days. Be sure to hit up the T-Bar upslope of the base area. It is a cool locals hole-in-the-wall bar.
Having skied there now about ten days, I like it largely because of the town. Midweek non-holiday is still pretty manageable. Good variety, nice lifts, great views, really friendly folks, real western feel, and decent snow. The ski area itself feels like a combination of Stratton and Killington in that it is large, has a lot of cruisers, and different areas with different aspects and terrain. The backside is pretty underwhelming IMHO. The expert terrain is disappointing in my mind as a western skier for a decade now. There are no real open bowls or wide-open skiing. Frontside expert stuff has good pitch but it seems that they are all just bump runs. Backside stuff starts off with a nice drop but soon mellows out to flat gladed terrain and runouts. The hike-to options off the summit require minimal effort, have a couple gnarly chutes and pitches, while other aspects offer some good pitched terrain, but overall these runs are short and all dump out onto a groomed traverse loop that can be a long ways to get back to the main runs. Lots of groomed skiing that is fun for all levels, but it really feels like an east coast skiing experience in that regard, especially considering the snowmaking and grooming and that one cannot really "ski" the full vertical run after run because it really is 2 minor peaks and a high ridgeline with terrain off that ridgeline funneling to a couple escape routes on looker's left that wrap around and meander back down the frontside to the base area.
As the wise Bob R says, "it is what it is."
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abc
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It’s Killington with a lot better snow. What’s not to like?
