Vermont Skier Visits Down Significantly Due to COVID-19

[PAabe]

I am tired of talking about covid and would rather pretend it no longer exists. Thought we were done with this months ago. There has been plenty of opportunity for folks to get vaxed and if they haven't not my problem such is life

As a vaccinated individual I am probably more likely to spontaneously die in my sleep tonight than die of covid at this point, and all the seniors and at risk people I know have likewise been vaccinated for months, however, many have had non-covid health issues exacerbated by the general situation. I truly believe it is time to move on but I do realize that is my opinion.

Regarding the Olympics, that women's road race the other day was really something! Lots of exciting things going on in tokyo

 

[2Planker]

You know what?

Biden could shut everyone up and raise vaccination rates simply by inviting Trump to the White House and convince him to promote his supporters getting vaccinated.
Acknowledge his contribution to the solution.

Actually last Sat in AZ, Trump did exactly that, in front of 5,000 (which he claimed was 30,000)

He did spout his usual stolen election BS for 90 mins, But definitely did tell people to go out and get Vaccine asap
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-covid-vaccine-video-speech-vc996191e

 

[boston_e]

I am tired of talking about covid and would rather pretend it no longer exists. Thought we were done with this months ago. There has been plenty of opportunity for folks to get vaxed and if they haven't not my problem such is life

Except it could be all of our problem if it continues to spread and mutate into a variant that eludes the vaccines.

Here in the US we have an abundance of safe and effective vaccines and a pretty high percentage of people who won't get it, largely for political reasons. Its stupid.

 

[skiur]

You know what?

Biden could shut everyone up and raise vaccination rates simply by inviting Trump to the White House and convince him to promote his supporters getting vaccinated.
Acknowledge his contribution to the solution.

That would be career suicide for Biden.

 

[boston_e]

That would be career suicide for Biden.

Sadly that is probably true.

 

[abc]

No, that would be career suicide for Trump.

 

[boston_e]

No, that would be career suicide for Trump.

That is definitely true.

 

[ThatGuy]

This thread is whats making me think of suicide, can we shut this down or talk about something more pertinent to the topic of Vermont skier visits. It’s been about 20 pages now of ad hominem attacks and anecdotal opinions, with the sparse statistic thrown in between. We’re on here because we all love skiing (I hope), not because we want to be armchair scientists and sociologists or argue with internet strangers. There are some of you who obviously don’t want to have a serious discussion, its just one snarky comment or personal jab. While others are acting like its their life mission to proselytize their positions for or against all restrictions and vaccines. I’m in my twenties and it’s sad to see full grown “adults” bickering like petulant children over things that they definitely won’t change, on a niche internet forum devoted to skiing where they can’t even change each others opinions. My vaccination status or political affiliation isn’t relevant on this forum and neither is anyone else’s. The world is changing everyday and change is the only thing that never changes so we better get used to it. Arguing day in and out over the same things won’t get you anywhere.

 

[abc]

You have a idealistic view of internet forum which some of us used to have.

We’re on here because we all love skiing (I hope), not because we want to be armchair scientists and sociologists or argue with internet strangers.

The two are not mutually exclusive. You can love skiing yet want to be armchair scientist.

Moreover, I'm of the opinion many who post on social media are there to argue with strangers! Some enjoy it as an entertainment. Others are addicted to it like drugs/gambling!

But there's no need to despair. The internet forum isn't representative of the average population (or ski population).

If you don't enjoy the posts, you don't have to read them. If you find the proliferation of non-skiing threads annoying, take a break from this forum till winter. Majority of people do just that. (I'm only browsing here from time to time so I don't miss any worthy news on passes for next season)

 

[BenedictGomez]

That would be career suicide for Biden.

Because that's what politics in America has devolved into, scorched-earth policy. If it doesnt change it will doom our nation, because our politicians now focus more time & effort on hurting ideologically opposed Americans rather than foreign enemies.

 

[jimmywilson69]

good point. there is hardly any bipartisan workings and both parties are to blame.

If there was 1 thing that should've been bipartisan in our lifetimes it should've been to fight Covid.

God help us if we are ever in a war situation and have to defend our country...

 

[Hawk]

That would be career suicide for Biden.

How long a career do you think he has left? He is not long for politics and has even hinted that. I don't think that is even an issue. I mean it will never happen but if any new cantidate wants to change things and rally the country they are going to have to do something drastic like take a running mate from an opposing party or take a position that is not favorable to his or her party.

 

[JimG.]

good point. there is hardly any bipartisan workings and both parties are to blame.

If there was 1 thing that should've been bipartisan in our lifetimes it should've been to fight Covid.

God help us if we are ever in a war situation and have to defend our country...

Exactly...time for both sides to man up, swallow some pride, and work together towards a common goal that benefits everyone.

That said, I'm doing my part to increase VT skier visits this coming season, got my midweek K pass and pretty excited to ski in VT again after missing out last season.

 

[drjeff]

Exactly...time for both sides to man up, swallow some pride, and work together towards a common goal that benefits everyone.

That said, I'm doing my part to increase VT skier visits this coming season, got my midweek K pass and pretty excited to ski in VT again after missing out last season.

Agree! The current "Caucus before Country" style of politics BOTH parties certainly play is disgusting. It would be nice if more people, regardless of their ideological leanings, realized that their elected officials are often just playing their constituents with lines of utter doom and gloom if the other party gets their way, and stand up to their fear mongering the next time they have the chance to vote them out. And then keep voting their successors out until enough of the party establishment is rattled to actually start trying to work for the people, and not just their own party, again

 

[icecoast1]

Sadly that is probably true.

His career is going to be over in a little over 3 yrs anyway, so who cares. There's no way he's going to run again at 82. If it were truly about getting shots in arms and not about politics and not doing anything to give the evil orange man credit, theyd have Trump and Biden do a primetime address from the white house

 

[abc]

If it were truly about getting shots in arms and not about politics and not doing anything to give the evil orange man credit, theyd have Trump and Biden do a primetime address from the white house

Trump had that chance before he left office.

If he didn't do it then, he's not going to do it now.

God help us if we are ever in a war situation and have to defend our country...

Instead of fighting the enemy, they'll be too busy blaming the other party for letting the situation got to that point.

Or better yet, claim the enemy is no big deal and don't even need to fight! Just enjoy life as usual as though nothing has changed. Sounds familiar?

 

[Not Sure]

“Punish your enemies and reward your friends “ Hard to have any common ground with someone who thinks you are evil.
The chasm will only grow wider with the author of that quote who is the real president not the current puppet occupant .
Come on man cut the politics!!!!!

 

[boston_e]

So as this new variant ramps up, (and it seems evident that we would t get enough people vaccinated to reach herd immunity)…… predictions on how it might affect operations next winter?

 

[snoseek]

So as this new variant ramps up, (and it seems evident that we would t get enough people vaccinated to reach herd immunity)…… predictions on how it might affect operations next winter?

It probably wont all that much os my guess. People are over it vaccinated or not. Mask up maybe? Last season worked on for me honestly

 

[abc]

So as this new variant ramps up, (and it seems evident that we would t get enough people vaccinated to reach herd immunity)…… predictions on how it might affect operations next winter?

If people continue to refuse to vaccinate, we're going to have a bigger outbreak come Thanksgiving! And stretch into Christmas just like last year. While that won't affect the skiing part, it may affect the stuff around skiing, like lodge access, food and drink etc. Personally, if there're as many cases as now come winter, I'll avoid hanging out in the crowded lodges.

But it's premature to predict the course of the virus, or the people's behavior. A lot of municipality are requiring their staff to vaccinate. University too. Even more so in private sector. So I'm hopeful a lot more people will get vaccinated. If so, we'll have a winter much closer to what we used to know, instead of resembling last winter.