Vermont Skier Visits Down Significantly Due to COVID-19

[thebigo]

People always try to compare presidents. The definition of the word compare requires a sample size of two or greater, there is only one president. There are however 50 governors, sununu has consistently lead the country when it comes to getting shots into arms.

 

[BenedictGomez]

The next guy said 100M shots in 100 days and achieved 200M

That's the reality

The reality is it's absurd to give the Biden Administration virtually any credit for vaccine success. Good grief. Yeah, like they parachute in & January 22nd get to work after the inauguration parties are over, and "MAGIC!!!". Take a look at the slope of the doses/day curve & anyone who didnt fail pre-Algebra can figure out that narrative is silly.

And FWIW, the 100M shots thing was an intentionally low number which everyone working at any significant level of pharma 100% knew would be greatly exceeded. That's called politics. You got played.

 

[ScottySkis]

The reality is it's absurd to give the Biden Administration virtually any credit for vaccine success. Good grief. Yeah, like they parachute in & January 22nd get to work after the inauguration parties of over, and "MAGIC!!!". Take a look at the slope of the doses/day curve & anyone who didnt fail pre-Algebra can figure out that narrative is silly.

And FWIW, the 100M shots thing was an intentionally low number which everyone working in pharma 100% knew would be greatly exceeded. You got played.

To much politics please stop

 

[BenedictGomez]

People always try to compare presidents. The definition of the word compare requires a sample size of two or greater, there is only one president. There are however 50 governors, sununu has consistently lead the country when it comes to getting shots into arms.

This is a much better point as it's one thing to receive allocation, and another to do something with it. We can definitely look at various states & see some handled their supply much better than others. Generally speaking, the states with the most restrictions did the worst. Take a look at California, for instance, they literally had thousands of doses sitting on shelves while younger people wanted to be vaccinated. A complete failure of leadership.

The good thing about this (if there is such a thing) is that it will be studied & we will learn from these successes & failures for the future.

 

[Domeskier]

And FWIW, the 100M shots thing was an intentionally low number which everyone working at any significant level of pharma 100% knew would be greatly exceeded. You got played.

I remember hearing back in January that they just needed to maintain the same vaccination rate as the prior administration to hit 100MM in 100 days and realizing I wasn't cynical enough to succeed in modern politics.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I remember hearing back in January that they just needed to maintain the same vaccination rate as the prior administration to hit 100MM in 100 days and realizing I wasn't cynical enough to succeed in modern politics.

Yeah, you can see in the CDC data I posted the slope barely changes at all from Trump to Biden.

If not for the slight dip for about a week in February you could lay a ruler on that chart the trend line's so stable!

 

[cdskier]

Yeah, you can see in the CDC data I posted the slope barely changes at all from Trump to Biden.

If not for the slight dip for about a week in February you could lay a ruler on that chart the trend line's so stable!

If I recall correctly...that slight dip in February coincides with a major winter storm in parts of the mid-west that impacted the shipping of Vaccines for several days.

 

[deadheadskier]

The reality is it's absurd to give the Biden Administration virtually any credit for vaccine success. Good grief. Yeah, like they parachute in & January 22nd get to work after the inauguration parties are over, and "MAGIC!!!". Take a look at the slope of the doses/day curve & anyone who didnt fail pre-Algebra can figure out that narrative is silly.

And FWIW, the 100M shots thing was an intentionally low number which everyone working at any significant level of pharma 100% knew would be greatly exceeded. That's called politics. You got played.

I disagree

My wife got her first shot today. It was handled by the national guard. Such mass vaccination sites run by the guard didn't exist around here in December and early January. Now they're all over.

Could also have occurred without a change in leadership. Maybe you're right. I guess we will never know. The trajectory trend of the prior leadership in your graph is a pretty small sample size.

But the larger point is it is almost always better to under promise and over deliver. I know in my business if I promise $2M in sales and I fail to even crack $200k, I'd get fired.

 

[cdskier]

I disagree

My wife got her first shot today. It was handled by the national guard. Such mass vaccination sites run by the guard didn't exist around here in December and early January. Now they're all over.

Could also have occurred without a change in leadership. Maybe you're right. I guess we will never know. The trajectory trend of the prior leadership in your graph is a pretty small sample size.

But the larger point is it is almost always better to under promise and over deliver. I know in my business if I promise $2M in sales and I fail to even crack $200k, I'd get fired.

The National Guard was helping setup and run vaccination sites before the change in leadership.

Here's just one article about the National Guard helping back in late December in NH (which I believe is the state you live in IIRC)

New Hampshire Guardsmen activated at 13 vaccination sites

EXETER, N.H. – Thirteen vaccination sites officially opened for New Hampshire first responders and high-risk ambulatory care providers Dec. 29.Teams of New Hampshire Guardsmen were assigned to each

www.nationalguard.mil

I could provide dozens of examples of articles from late December and early January about the National Guard doing the same thing in many other states...

 

[Harvey]

Presidents get too much credit and blame for a lot of things. The economy comes to mind.

I'd also agree that taking what politicians say at face value is pretty foolish. If America could learn that lesson, we'd be a lot better off, especially right now.

 

[abc]

Presidents get too much credit and blame for a lot of things.

But that appears to be what people “want” to see. (or what the political propaganda machine want to force fed us)

Or rather, that’s who people want to blame.

Take the new mask (or rather, no mask) guideline. Why was the president doing the announcements when all he did was repeat what the CDC’s new recommendation? Ok, he wants the limelight. But if people don’t watch it, maybe he wouldn’t waste time on it!

 

[Harvey]

Politicians do politics. If we didn't respond to it, it wouldn't happen.

I have actually revised my view on this somewhat. The last 5 years have shown that at times (emergencies) presidents do have more an impact. When leadership is needed.

 

[drjeff]

The entire vaccination roll out in my head at least is much like a ski season. Early on, there's little supply and lots of demand. Then both supply and demand build in the 1st third of the season. Supply and demand seem to equalize in mid season, and then as the season goes on, supply out paces demand (we're somewhere in the mid season heading towards late season vaccination wise right now it seems).

That's going to happen regardless of who was in the Whitehouse.

 

[Harvey]

Good analogy IMO.

 

[Edd]

This is probably the way forward.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1387350455496347655

 

[machski]

I disagree

My wife got her first shot today. It was handled by the national guard. Such mass vaccination sites run by the guard didn't exist around here in December and early January. Now they're all over.

Could also have occurred without a change in leadership. Maybe you're right. I guess we will never know. The trajectory trend of the prior leadership in your graph is a pretty small sample size.

But the larger point is it is almost always better to under promise and over deliver. I know in my business if I promise $2M in sales and I fail to even crack $200k, I'd get fired.

Not for nothing, but deploying the guard for this has nothing to do with the Feds and everything to do with the State itself. Remember, while the Guards are tied to the full US Military, their primary CIC is the state Governor unless activated by the full federal branch.

 

[1dog]

But that appears to be what people “want” to see. (or what the political propaganda machine want to force fed us)

Or rather, that’s who people want to blame.

Take the new mask (or rather, no mask) guideline. Why was the president doing the announcements when all he did was repeat what the CDC’s new recommendation? Ok, he wants the limelight. But if people don’t watch it, maybe he wouldn’t waste time on it!

Mask guidelines - ever-changing, never not-shaming.

full piece https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/the-latest-foolishness-from-cdc.php

 

[1dog]

The reality is it's absurd to give the Biden Administration virtually any credit for vaccine success. Good grief. Yeah, like they parachute in & January 22nd get to work after the inauguration parties are over, and "MAGIC!!!". Take a look at the slope of the doses/day curve & anyone who didnt fail pre-Algebra can figure out that narrative is silly.

And FWIW, the 100M shots thing was an intentionally low number which everyone working at any significant level of pharma 100% knew would be greatly exceeded. That's called politics. You got played.

Recall '09-'16 blaming W for everything wrong, Trump did similar, now, Xiden the same. A few may be true, never all.

It's really ( choose Door #1, 2, or 3) the electorate not paying attention, their lack of knowledge on how a Constitutional Republic operates , or media playing to its viewers #1 and #2. ( double entendre not intended - but may be appropriate)

 

[dblskifanatic]

Mask guidelines - ever-changing, never not-shaming.

full piece https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/the-latest-foolishness-from-cdc.php

Restaurant mask wearing just to get in once seated no one wears a mask, Heck we went to a rural restaurant in Illinois and we were amazed at people walking right in with no mask and there was no shaming. We have attended 50 percent capacity indoor concerts and masks were required if walking around otherwise not. People were even dancing without them, This was last summer. Then we went to our church every family distanced by at least 12 ft 25% capacity and everyone was required to wear the face masks. I felt in was in some kind of 80's MTV music video.

In any case, not sure that chart represent what people are actually doing.

 

[ScottySkis]

Recall '09-'16 blaming W for everything wrong, Trump did similar, now, Xiden the same. A few may be true, never all.

It's really ( choose Door #1, 2, or 3) the electorate not paying attention, their lack of knowledge on how a Constitutional Republic operates , or media playing to its viewers #1 and #2. ( double entendre not intended - but may be appropriate)

Please stop with political bullshit