VT Flooding

[KustyTheKlown]

a friend asked me about the champlain valley expo yesterday. hes going to see billy strings end of july. i told him burlington area is probably fine and surely he'll be fine for the show in 2-3 weeks. i presume thats the right answer?

 

[Keelhauled]

Yup, that was what I was inferring. Get all the random impact studies about 13 red spot inch worms out of the way and start bringing in the heavy equipment and truck loads of gravel/fill and let the highly skilled local operators do their thing with the main role of the gov't being writing a check

Yes, that is how it works all the time for road maintenance and repairs. Are you under the impression it ordinarily takes an Act 250 permit put down hardpack? When a culvert failed on 89 in Richmond last year they had crews starting work two days after the sinkhole appeared. It took a while to finish, but that was because the culvert was fifty feet underground, not because anyone was sitting in their hands waiting. If you don't know what you're talking about why don't you shut up and leave us out of your libertarian wet dreams.

 

[FBGM]

Yes, that is how it works all the time for road maintenance and repairs. Are you under the impression it ordinarily takes an Act 250 permit put down hardpack? When a culvert failed on 89 in Richmond last year they had crews starting work two days after the sinkhole appeared. It took a while to finish, but that was because the culvert was fifty feet underground, not because anyone was sitting in their hands waiting. If you don't know what you're talking about why don't you shut up and leave us out of your libertarian wet dreams.

Watch out we got a tough guy here.

 

[BodeMiller1]

Threat Level Mid Night.

When I met you in the restaurant
You could tell I was no debutante
You asked me what's my pleasure
"A movie or a measure?"
I'll have a cup of tea
And tell you of my
Dreamin', dreamin' is free
Dreamin', dreamin' is free
I don't want to live on charity
Pleasure's real or is it fantasy?
Reel to reel is living rarity
People stop and stare at me
We just walk on by
We just keep on dreamin'
Beat feet, walking a two-mile
Meet me, meet me at the turnstile
I never met him, I'll never forget him
Dream, dream, even for a little while
Dream, dream, filling up an idle hour
Fade away (woo), radiate
I sit by and watch the river flow
I sit by and watch the traffic go
Imagine something of your very own
Something you can have and hold
I'd build a road in gold just to have some

 

[BodeMiller1]

This too will pass. Not much we can do.

Too much rain
Too much grade
Not much soil on the ledges.

 

[Hawk]

Yes, that is how it works all the time for road maintenance and repairs. Are you under the impression it ordinarily takes an Act 250 permit put down hardpack? When a culvert failed on 89 in Richmond last year they had crews starting work two days after the sinkhole appeared. It took a while to finish, but that was because the culvert was fifty feet underground, not because anyone was sitting in their hands waiting. If you don't know what you're talking about why don't you shut up and leave us out of your libertarian wet dreams.

OK so if you want to split hairs, that was a federally funded project because it is an interstate highway. So on emergency projects like that they can bypass the usual rules. I think that is a bad example for this situation. I will say that because of the overwhelming damage, the state deamed this a disater and is looking for federal disaster relief funds. I don't know if this was approved yet but it will be. Anyway I think that also triggers the approval bypass thing.

People who follow the rules do not have a political affiliation. They are rule followers. As much as I hate following the rules, I think it is complete bullshit that people stereotype things and politsize them. VT created act 250 becasue so many construction projects in the past fucked up all kinds of things. In some cases they affected drinking water supplies. Sometimes (not all the time) rules are good.

 

[jimmywilson69]

Emergency construction is usually completed under an emergency permit. Rules are loosened, not completely thrown out the window. I work in the transportation engineering field, Specifally water resource permitting, and there is usually a 2 staged approach. Stage 1 get the facility back open and stabilized (sometimes that might be it, if its a culvert failure) There is usually some federal and state oversite to make sure the temporary fix isn't completely ignoring some basic "rules". Stage 2 construct the permanent fix and meet all State and Federal permit requirements. most streams "of any sizeable nature" are regulated by the State and Feds (USACE) so there things you have to do ultimately to meet all of those regulations.

 

[BodeMiller1]

Just read front pages of Union Leader and others. Not Good.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

maybe its kind of silly/unimportant amidst all the destruction and hardship that PEOPLE are facing, but as someone who deeply loves my cat and my family's dogs, i could not help but immediately think of the pets, farm animals, and unhomed domestic animals this week. this person is a fucking hero.

Vermont cat cafe destroys own floor to save animals from drowning

A long-duration rainstorm caused devastating flooding in Montpelier, Vermont.

www.newsweek.com

 

[ThatGuy]

Wow thats amazing, the world needs more people like her

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Wow thats amazing, the world needs more people like her

First thing that’s opened my wallet this week. Such a sucker for cats.

Donate to Flood Relief For Shelter Cats, organized by Kitty Korner

As many of you know, Central Vermont was recently demolished by flood waters. Unprecedented… Kitty Korner needs your support for Flood Relief For Shelter Cats

gofund.me

 

[SkiingInABlueDream]

maybe its kind of silly/unimportant amidst all the destruction and hardship that PEOPLE are facing, but as someone who deeply loves my cat and my family's dogs, i could not help but immediately think of the pets, farm animals, and unhomed domestic animals this week. this person is a fucking hero.

Vermont cat cafe destroys own floor to save animals from drowning

A long-duration rainstorm caused devastating flooding in Montpelier, Vermont.

www.newsweek.com

Agreed. 100%.

 

[2Planker]

NASCAR race in Loudon, NH currently a go. That's 60k people coming up.

Agreed. 100%.

Yes they did a good thing, BUT there are hundreds of

Agreed. 100%.

MSPCA has both Cats and Dogs rescued from VT, available now

 

[SkiingInABlueDream]

@2Planker Well since you double quoted me....what are you saying here?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i think his point is there are a shitload of animals in need, before and after this flooding event. spay and neuter your pets.

 

[ModeBiller👁WannaCracker]

This too will pass. Not much we can do.

Too much rain
Too much grade
Not much soil on the ledges.

How many 'Ignore' lists are you populating across the interwbz?
All of them??

 

[ss20]

How many 'Ignore' lists are you populating across the interwbz?
All of them??

Oh lord is this another one

 

[Zand]

New flood watch posted for almost all of VT.

Starts with a potent line of storms tomorrow afternoon, not long lasting but could drop a few quick inches. Then more coming this weekend.

This is where the Wrightsville Dam situation could really go downhill quickly.

 

[kendo]

this is horrifying and so so sad

i want to go physically help but its probably too soon to drive and take up resources

Vermont looking for volunteers:

Volunteers Register | Vermont.gov

Volunteer to Help Support Vermonters Thank you for answering Governor Scott’s call for volunteers and being willing to help other Vermonters in this time of need. The volunteer needs in the wake of the storm are evolving, so we are calling on Vermonters to sign up, let us know what skills they...

www.vermont.gov

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Vermont looking for volunteers:

Volunteers Register | Vermont.gov

Volunteer to Help Support Vermonters Thank you for answering Governor Scott’s call for volunteers and being willing to help other Vermonters in this time of need. The volunteer needs in the wake of the storm are evolving, so we are calling on Vermonters to sign up, let us know what skills they...

www.vermont.gov

thank you. im specifically trying to help in londonderry. its the easiest trip for me to make and they got it so bad. i pinged magic asking for local volunteer info and they said they will get back to me. considering making the trip to do some physical clean up on sat

worried that the rain today and tomorrow will make things impassable and fucked again.