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What the heck is going on at Magic?

deadheadskier

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Tough times there no doubt.

But let's keep the conversation factual. The weather at K isn't a good place to compare to for Magic.
 

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Hope they are. Not surprised a place like Magic with a minimal budget isn't going to be making snow in these conditions. They don't intend on opening until the 9th. It's going to be bitter cold Monday and Tuesday. So the right play is to wait when you're operating on a shoestring budget.
 

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Hope they are. Not surprised a place like Magic with a minimal budget isn't going to be making snow in these conditions. They don't intend on opening until the 9th. It's going to be bitter cold Monday and Tuesday. So the right play is to wait when you're operating on a shoestring budget.

Can't make any money if they're not open. Takes a bit more than 4 days to get a t2b route open at Magic I'd think. Especially starting from scratch.
 

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Can't make any money if they're not open. Takes a bit more than 4 days to get a t2b route open at Magic I'd think. Especially starting from scratch.

What is there capacity vs terrain like? This is a good question. What does it take to get them open.

Wildcat can opens 2,112' feet of gnarly terrain in 48 hours. Bretton Woods can open about 1,300' of golf course in 24 hours. I think Sunday River is similar to Bretton Woods in vertical and time.


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On what planet? 30 degrees and 70% humidity. Snowmaking is not possible.

30°F, 70% RH = 27.1°F WB

Yes snow can be made.

And with elevation, temp usually decreases average at 3.56°F/1000 ft., so the summit could be around 21.8°F WB.
 

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Can't make any money if they're not open. Takes a bit more than 4 days to get a t2b route open at Magic I'd think. Especially starting from scratch.

Can't make money if you try to make snow when temperatures and humidity don't allow it. Stratton and Bromley both had about 2 "real trails" open. Killington didn't have much more if you compensate for size. Unless it's really cold at the top of Killington, they aren't doing much either.

I don't think you know what you are talking about but if you really want to pontificate continue but it would be n ice if you had some factual content.
 

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It's takes 5 strong days to open trick to show off. Yes the ratnjcks have new nozzles. If they are serious about opening next weekend snowmaking needs to start ASAP. Especially considering its magic and what can go wrong will go wrong.


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On what planet? 30 degrees and 70% humidity. Snowmaking is not possible.

Ok, I know micro climates play a roll, but I'm less than 20 miles SOUTH of Magic now, at a similar elevation and staring out my back window at the lights of somewhere near 100 fan guns running on the main face and Carinthia at Mount Snow, the same fan guns that have been running with 2 to 3 nozzle banks open for over 30 hours now, with some decent sized whale's that I saw firsthand today

If Magic isn't running their snowmaking system yet, either their micro-climate is FAR different, or there's other, bigger issues going on!!!!

On an aside, I really hope they get open soon, as both my kids are scheduled to have their 1st gate race of the season there in 2 weeks!!!
 

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I'm not going to bother linking their conditions reports. You can look at them for yourself.

Although sometimes they are projected reports with the expectations of temperatures getting to a certain point and not necessarily "real time" as far as current snowmaking info. (Not saying whether they are or are not making snow at the moment as I suspect they are at many of those areas at least on some parts of the mountain...just saying reports aren't always accurate).
 
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