What the heck is going on at Magic?

[slatham]

I think the 17th on the snow report is an error, based on the FB posts and what I see on the front page of the web site. But it could turn out to be correct! Hope snowmaking goes well, the Tuesday storm outperforms, and the weekend storm stays cold (some models unfortunately staring to look warm). THINK SNOW.

 

[xwhaler]

"our goal is to open the Red Chair by Saturday, Jan 16. If snowmaking goes incredibly well, it's possible we'll be ready Friday, or maybe even Thursday the 14th, which is our current goal -"
Snowmaking must not be going incredibly well then. Maybe it will snow Tuesday.

Correct...that was my point. The Alpine update page doesn't match the snow report page as far as dates go.

 

[VTKilarney]

Any update on the lift inspection? Hopefully everything went well.

 

[rtjcbrown]

Any update on the lift inspection? .

Not good

 

[gmcunni]

off Facebook:

Any updates? Did Red pass today?

Sarr Sheffer Hey Brendan and Bill,
Still waiting on the official update, but I'm hearing that it's looking good so far. I do know that we still need to do a "lift evac" with the ski patrol tomorrow, before the Red Chair will pass. They were making progress on the the Black Chair, but they're saying that could still be two weeks out.

 

[ss20]

off Facebook:

Any updates? Did Red pass today?

Sarr Sheffer Hey Brendan and Bill,
Still waiting on the official update, but I'm hearing that it's looking good so far. I do know that we still need to do a "lift evac" with the ski patrol tomorrow, before the Red Chair will pass. They were making progress on the the Black Chair, but they're saying that could still be two weeks out.

So Red has a *chance* at opening. See Black in 2017!!!

 

[JoeB-Z]

How do you get a weekend ski patrol to do a lift evac on a Tuesday? I don't know how many patrollers that takes but I assume somehow the rabbit will be pulled out of the hat.

As to Black, I understand the clock is ticking on entering a tougher testing protocol if the lift is inactive for two years? So when did it last run? Who can spell out more detail? I remember it running for the Black Magic Challenge two years ago.

It will be cold all week now. Snowmaking reports appreciated.

 

[Tin]

So Red has a *chance* at opening. See Black in 2017!!!

 

[drjeff]

How do you get a weekend ski patrol to do a lift evac on a Tuesday? I don't know how many patrollers that takes but I assume somehow the rabbit will be pulled out of the hat.

As to Black, I understand the clock is ticking on entering a tougher testing protocol if the lift is inactive for two years? So when did it last run? Who can spell out more detail? I remember it running for the Black Magic Challenge two years ago.

It will be cold all week now. Snowmaking reports appreciated.

I know I rode the Black in March of '14 when one of my kids had a race at Magic

 

[VTKilarney]

An official post was put up on Facebook:

The lift inspector checked off most of the open items on the Red Chair and the Tube Park Lift today. It's looking great so far. We still need to do a "Lift Evac" with the ski patrol tomorrow before the Red Chair will pass.
Mountain Ops was making progress on the the Black Chair, but they're saying that could still be two weeks out.
Our target date remains this Saturday with a little help from Mother Nature combined with our snowmakers pumping away as much as possible.




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[mriceyman]

With continuous snowmaking temps likely thru the week they have to get open saturday.


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[Magicsnowboard]

With continuous snowmaking temps likely thru the week they have to get open saturday.


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You know who you are dealing with right?


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[thetrailboss]

So Red has a *chance* at opening. See Black in 2017!!!

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[zoomzoom]

i believe the 2 year rule is for abandoned lifts. from the 2011.1 B77.1 standard:

4.1.1.11.1 Acceptance inspection

Before an aerial lift that is new or relocated or that has
not been operated for routine maintenance within the
previous 2 years is opened to the public, it shall be given
a thorough inspection by qualified personnel to verify
compliance with the plans and specifications of the
designer.

4.1.1.11.2 Acceptance tests
Before an aerial lift that is new or relocated or that has
not been operated for routine maintenance within the
previous 2 years is opened to the public, it shall be given
thorough tests by qualified personnel to verify
compliance with the plans and specifications of the
designer. The designer or manufacturer shall propose
and submit an acceptance test procedure.
Test load per carrier shall be 110% of the design live
load. Thorough load and operating tests shall be
performed under full loading and any partial loadings that
may provide the most adverse operating conditions. The
functioning of all push-button stops, automatic stops,
limit switches, deropement switches, and
communications shall be checked. Acceleration and
deceleration rates shall be satisfactory under all loadings
(see 4.1.2.4). Motive power and all braking and rollback
devices (see 4.1.2.6) shall be proved adequate under
the most adverse loadings.

 

[ss20]

With continuous snowmaking temps likely thru the week they have to get open saturday.

 

[thetrailboss]

So I occasionally follow this thread, but it always seems like the Black is always "just two weeks" away from opening, no?


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[mriceyman]

You know who you are dealing with right?


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[thetrailboss]

i believe the 2 year rule is for abandoned lifts. from the 2011.1 B77.1 standard:

4.1.1.11.1 Acceptance inspection

Before an aerial lift that is new or relocated or that has
not been operated for routine maintenance within the
previous 2 years is opened to the public, it shall be given
a thorough inspection by qualified personnel to verify
compliance with the plans and specifications of the
designer.

4.1.1.11.2 Acceptance tests
Before an aerial lift that is new or relocated or that has
not been operated for routine maintenance within the
previous 2 years is opened to the public, it shall be given
thorough tests by qualified personnel to verify
compliance with the plans and specifications of the
designer. The designer or manufacturer shall propose
and submit an acceptance test procedure.
Test load per carrier shall be 110% of the design live
load. Thorough load and operating tests shall be
performed under full loading and any partial loadings that
may provide the most adverse operating conditions. The
functioning of all push-button stops, automatic stops,
limit switches, deropement switches, and
communications shall be checked. Acceleration and
deceleration rates shall be satisfactory under all loadings
(see 4.1.2.4). Motive power and all braking and rollback
devices (see 4.1.2.6) shall be proved adequate under
the most adverse loadings.

So, for the Black, which is a Pohlig/Yan, who would now be the "designer or manufacturer" since both are long gone?


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[zoomzoom]

it is my understanding that the black lift has run for routine maintenance in the last 2 years, so the rule doesn't apply.

 

[drjeff]

My kids race scheduled for Magic this coming Sunday has been postponed until Mid February - I'm hoping its a sign that they WILL be open this weekend, just only with Show Off as the route to the base so they can't use it for racing vs. not being open at all!!