What the heck is going on at Magic?

[lotsarocks]

Sad to see the compressor go. Grooming was great and the morning was one of the better this year. Fast! Medium is still not groomed out yet, maybe tomorrow.

 

[prsboogie]

Family pack paid $130, will take 100 if anyone is interested, $20 Groupon as well. I know I'll get rid of these and we will get 30" dump! Chance I'll take

 

[rocks860]

I'm strongly considering trying to unload my 3 pack

 

[steamboat1]

lol

 

[BlueTrails]

Sad to see the compressor go.

I missed something here. What do you mean 'go'? Blew up? returned to lessor?

 

[drjeff]

I missed something here. What do you mean 'go'? Blew up? returned to lessor?

Presidents week ending - gotta think the lease was up, as it is at most resorts historically right now

Then again this is Magic this year, so repossessed by the owner for failure of payment might be an option as well.... :-(

 

[slatham]

Rumor has it they've had continuing issues with the compressor they own. And they leased a compressor, which they just returned. What I don't know for sure is whether they would have leased the compressor anyhow for added capacity, or only did so because they had issues with their compressor. Its been a challenging season to say the least.

 

[Sorcerer]

Rumor has it they've had continuing issues with the compressor they own. And they leased a compressor, which they just returned. What I don't know for sure is whether they would have leased the compressor anyhow for added capacity, or only did so because they had issues with their compressor. Its been a challenging season to say the least.

They lease compressors every year. They were returned a bit ago and, I think, they tried to get the old one that they had in the lot going but had problems with it so they leased another one to get ready for holiday week.

 

[lotsarocks]

They lease compressors every year. They were returned a bit ago and, I think, they tried to get the old one that they had in the lot going but had problems with it so they leased another one to get ready for holiday week.

I wish they had done more while they had the ability. Maybe bolstering the trails they had open. But at least medium was open and will be skiing quite nicely into April. Magics version of the superstar glacier. Skiing was great but super crowded, (there was a 30 second lift line at one point)

 

[rocks860]

Maybe I'll try to get up there at least once before the end of the year and use one of these vouchers

 

[manhattanskier]

This is so depressing. This place is never going to work as a for profit unless someone sinks millions into new lifts and even more importantly snow making. This needs to be taken over as a nonprofit otherwise, how the coop almost happened and failed makes my heart sink.

 

[twinplanx]

This is so depressing. This place is never going to work as a for profit unless someone sinks millions into new lifts and even more importantly snow making. This needs to be taken over as a nonprofit otherwise, how the coop almost happened and failed makes my heart sink.

I think it's more of a management issue. With the right business model and A LOT of help from Mother Nature, I think Magic could turn a profit. It's in a GREAT location, near other mountains. They should be able to entice enough skiers to have lines at TWO lifts with minimal marketing.

 

[ShadyGrove]

Given the number of people at the other local mountains that ask me if Magic is "even open", I think it would take significant marketing to peel away skiers from Bromley, Stratton, or Okemo. Of course that may or may not be the business model any new management would be seeking.

 

[Newpylong]

I think it's more of a management issue. With the right business model and A LOT of help from Mother Nature, I think Magic could turn a profit. It's in a GREAT location, near other mountains. They should be able to entice enough skiers to have lines at TWO lifts with minimal marketing.

Can't draw skiers from other mountains without snow. Can't rely on mother nature as we have seen. Someone is going to need to dump money into snowmaking, both equipment and budget to turn a profit.

 

[Do Work]

Can't draw skiers from other mountains without snow. Can't rely on mother nature as we have seen. Someone is going to need to dump money into snowmaking, both equipment and budget to turn a profit.

Yes, Magic absolutely needs snow to operate and compete.

I do, however, know that we have a lot of capabilities we simply don't employ because ownership was so cash-strapped. If we had a couple hundred thou to throw at it, we could have the full east side and a couple ways down the west side. Plainly put, all we REALLY need is money. ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO, Magic has the Red Chair, that awesome groomer and a fully functional snowmaking system that reaches the vast majority of the mountain (albeit a bit inefficiently). They can work with that, but not with their current situation. Alas, nature did not play nicely this year so it was a double-whammy. Triple whammy if you count the continued bumblings of the management team (and how can you not).

Oh well. Hopefully it was a blessing in disguise and it will force current ownership to sell to the team that attempted the buyout last year. Things are actually much better than the current management team and weather would have you believe, though. It won't take much to provide a vastly superior experience in a lot of ways.

 

[Tin]

yes, magic absolutely needs snow to operate and compete.

I do, however, know that we have a lot of capabilities we simply don't employ because ownership was so cash-strapped. If we had a couple hundred thou to throw at it, we could have the full east side and a couple ways down the west side. Plainly put, all we really need is money. Absolute worst case scenario, magic has the red chair, that awesome groomer and a fully functional snowmaking system that reaches the vast majority of the mountain (albeit a bit inefficiently). They can work with that, but not with their current situation. Alas, nature did not play nicely this year so it was a double-whammy. Triple whammy if you count the continued bumblings of the management team (and how can you not).

Oh well. Hopefully it was a blessing in disguise and it will force current ownership to sell to the team that attempted the buyout last year. Things are actually much better than the current management team and weather would have you believe, though. It won't take much to provide a vastly superior experience in a lot of ways.

stoke!

 

[lotsarocks]

I feel once they have a reliable product ie a staple group of trails that are covered in snow no matter what ma nature brings and two ways to the top to make sure people don't have a bad experience they will be on to something. But until that happens they have nowhere to go but down. Once they have a stabilized product a great marketing person could do wonders. The prices can be so low comparatively that they should be able to get bus trips and ski groups to get on board. organize with colleges and offer amazing trip rates. They need to hit up shops old school and offer employees free ski days like mountains used to. Free skiing will attract shop employees who by word of mouth reach large numbers of people. They certainly are doing something right with the race groups. Expand on that. Lastly they have so many trails with long run-outs why not work features in on some of these. Kids want what they want. Why not be well rounded and offer a bit of everything. Race,freeride,trees,groomers,tavern. I hope the new group gets their chance and that the future is bright. Thanks for the efforts DW, your a driving force

 

[slatham]

Does the Magic Faithful have to draw the line and not support Magic until management/ownership is changed? I feel like we're perpetuating and enabling a bad situation to continue. Do we need an intervention? I am just fringe faithful compared to Do Work, Rusty, Jamaica Man, etc. But I bought a pass and vouchers for the family etc. (unused so far). I donated via the "shareholder" plan. I cut glades. But right now I really don't feel like offering any further support without a change. And if there is an opportunity for change via the "investor group" and current ownership passes on it again, then I am done. I can't believe I am the only one that feels this way......

 

[JoeB-Z]

I usually buy my pass early to help with the cash flow. Not this upcoming year.

 

[RustyGroomer]

Does the Magic Faithful have to draw the line and not support Magic until management/ownership is changed? I feel like we're perpetuating and enabling a bad situation to continue. Do we need an intervention? I am just fringe faithful compared to Do Work, Rusty, Jamaica Man, etc. But I bought a pass and vouchers for the family etc. (unused so far). I donated via the "shareholder" plan. I cut glades. But right now I really don't feel like offering any further support without a change. And if there is an opportunity for change via the "investor group" and current ownership passes on it again, then I am done. I can't believe I am the only one that feels this way......

You're far from alone. Many have been extremely reserved for the reasons above. We'd have an army in the right hands.