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What the heck is going on at Magic?

slatham

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The grooming has improved and last year was outright exceptional. You could spend the whole day doing nothing but cruising the groomers and be very, very happy. This is another fact that needs to be spread too.
 

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Ya the grooming was quite nice last year. I would do a groomer run to get warmed up, then an ungroomed or woods run then a groomer and then a woods run etc. As, it would let the legs last a bit longer each day.
 

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I took a lower-intermediate to Magic for the first time last year. She always has skied at Okemo. She absolutely loved the groomers at Magic, so much so, she and two girlfriends came back from NJ for a second weekend last year. That says way more than I can ever say.
 

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I posted a video, ironically for Billski of the groomers last year. Let me see if I can dig it up. Fantastic grooming that has gotten better every year.
 

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Im familiar with WROD days at Magic. This talk of improved manmade skiing at Magic peaks my interest.
They closed up this past year with way more than a WROD, and the woods were still rocking. With all the clearing that's been done in the woods, it's effectively added to the skiable acreage, much to the disappointment of the woodchucks. ;)
 

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Went there for the first time by myself last year and had a blast I went back with a carfull back at the end of Feb, with the amount of Snow they got and lack of traffic, best groomers in VT I skied all year. I did however laugh at the "passholders only" line that came out when it got busy.
 

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I don't think passholders even paid much attention to it. Certainly was not enforced that I remember.
 

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Today I was at a local store about 300 miles from VT wearing a Magic shirt. A guy said "Is that Magic Mountain, VT" ?. He said he has been skiing Bromley for years and has always looked over at Magic and never been. He said he heard its great "when there's a dump". I told him of the upcoming changes, snowmaking overall, and family friendly atmosphere. He said he may give it a try. My point here is this- when the changes are in place, there needs to be MAJOR P/R marketing event letting people know what's happening. Billboards, newspapers, skiing magazines, etc. In addition, why not a "first timers" ticket? Not sure how this would work but you have to lure people here. They are not going to risk it and take a chance for a full price ticket. Just my opinion but was proud to brag about "my" mountain :)
 

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Years ago. I bought 15 day tickets with my own cash with the mountains blessing. (Not transferable) Sold them here to "1st timers" for what I paid, $40. People sent me their name & a ticket was waiting for them @ the ticket office. They'd find me pay me later. All on the honor system & it worked out extremely well.

Directed @ "Magic". Its a good idea to attract some new skiers.
 
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What's with this assertion that they need the black chair operating? Why? They don't even fill all the chairs on the red yet. Are you west side skiers really that lazy you can't cruise across the top to the trails or schlep across the beginner area to get to the base of the lift? I don't know squat, but I wouldn't be opening a second lift until the first lift was fully utilized. Seems to me that either lift gets you to pretty much all of the trails on either side.
 

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What's with this assertion that they need the black chair operating? Why? They don't even fill all the chairs on the red yet. Are you west side skiers really that lazy you can't cruise across the top to the trails or schlep across the beginner area to get to the base of the lift? I don't know squat, but I wouldn't be opening a second lift until the first lift was fully utilized. Seems to me that either lift gets you to pretty much all of the trails on either side.

When one breaks down the other gets ya to the top. I have been there when there is only the red and it went down - hit the bar. Also been there when only the black was running when the red went down. 35 min wait for the black that day. They need both - don't need to run both unless needed.
 

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What's with this assertion that they need the black chair operating? Why? They don't even fill all the chairs on the red yet. Are you west side skiers really that lazy you can't cruise across the top to the trails or schlep across the beginner area to get to the base of the lift? I don't know squat, but I wouldn't be opening a second lift until the first lift was fully utilized. Seems to me that either lift gets you to pretty much all of the trails on either side.


Trust me, there were many weekends last season where there was a significant line to wait in at the Red chair. It would have been a very welcome addition at those points. Ops is great at only using as much as they have to though.
 

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Years ago. I bought 15 day tickets with my own cash with the mountains blessing. (Not transferable) Sold them here to "1st timers" for what I paid, $40. People sent me their name & a ticket was waiting for them @ the ticket office. They'd find me pay me later. All on the honor system & it worked out extremely well.

Directed @ "Magic". Its a good idea to attract some new skiers.

Great idea! I saw plenty of "comp tickets" on jackets this year but unfortunately not for the same reasons. We brought a family up with us 2 years ago and requested a discount rate from the old owner or whatever he was (JS) for our 1st time friends (we are "shareholders" and spend plenty !) . Well, the answer was no, so this family of four paid full price for tubing, rentals, etc. for a mountain that was half open, and our friends did not return to ski there. A few bucks off would have made a great impression and a return to the mountain.
 

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Billski, there have been significant times in years past (not last year though) where the mountain did not open due to reliance on Red and Red went down. And 2 years ago when Red went down disaster was averted only because Black was finally back on line. While we are hopefully past that situation with Red's overhaul, there is a contingent of people (my family included) who are very leery of heading over to Magic with only one lift running (a couple of them spent a cold 45 minutes stranded on Red during an epic Christmas dump several years ago and then had to bail to Bromley).

People also stayed away last year during Presidents weekend due to the expected crowds due to the races. I know it wasn't a disaster but the lines were pretty long. With both lifts running there would be no lines and everyone who was thinking of heading to Magic would have gone.

Two reliable lifts are needed to get to the next level.
 

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Trust me, there were many weekends last season where there was a significant line to wait in at the Red chair. It would have been a very welcome addition at those points. Ops is great at only using as much as they have to though.

This coming season, just from the Southern VT Council alpine junior racing series, Magic is hosting races on January 17th and 30th, February 14 and March 20th, and that's just for the u10, U12 and u14 age groups, the u16/18 age group schedule hasn't been posted yet. Let alone the usual stops at Magic by the tele race crew, the freeride tour, etc. Having 2 reliabily working lifts, for at least portions of the day, is a needed thing, and one which I look forward to enjoying on the 3 days days my kids have scheduled at Magic this coming season!
 

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Also, having Black open gives you a triple, So if looking to attract families, then the parent with two kids can take the Black and not have to let one kid ride alone. Especially, if one of the kids is just younger. Sure both kids can ride together but again if they are younger they can be with their parent together!
 
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