steamboat1
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Be thankful you don't. Personally I think you'd be a better spokes person for the mountain than these other a-holes
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What the heck is going on at Magic?
- Thread starter slatham
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Be thankful you don't. Personally I think you'd be a better spokes person for the mountain than these other a-holes
billski
Active member
I notice Magic is taking advantage of liftopia's 3-level lift ticket 1) good only for that day, 2) good for that day plus one change, 3) good for any day. Prices increase with flexibility. Not many places used this setup last year. Nice to see magic dabbling with it. Might bring in more folks.
Not Sure
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Rhumer Has IT Platty has an opening for Scotty.
steamboat1
New member
Works cheap too. Perfect for both areas
PearlJam09
New member
Those who know me know that I’m a huge supporter of Magic, however I don’t stand for bullshit and I want to know why things are the way they are. Yesterday, I posted this comment in response to Magic’s Facebook post that they had gotten two new Polaris Ranger ATVs (at a cost of almost $25K) "Since it appears that Magic has money to spend on ATVs that may only see a few weeks of use before the crew is on snowmobiles full time, can we expect that there is enough money in the budget to fix the lodge up, make snow on several trails prior to opening, and provide a terrain park this season? What else do you guys have up your sleeve?" As of this morning, I’ve been blocked from commenting on their posts and all of my previous comments have been removed.
I’m a firm believer in freedom of speech and freedom of information, and this is far from the worst thing I posted on their wall. I feel that if someone is openly criticizing your business, rather than censoring them and trying to cover it up, a business should meet that opportunity head on by responding with all of the great things that they are planning for the season. Even a bullshit response along the lines of “Don’t fret, we have the funds to take care of everything” would have been better than trying to cover something up. Given everything that has gone on this summer, I believe that more information and more transparency would benefit the ownership. I know that Magic isn’t a big mountain with a social media team, but PLEASE take cues from other, more successful mountains in the area (like Killington).
I was totally willing to give this Shane kid a chance, since he appears to understand how to use a spell checker, but our new “Director of Sales and Marketing” has definitely started out on the wrong foot with me, and I’m not one to easily forgive or forget, and anyone who has been in the lodge knows that I’m not one to be silenced either.
I still believe that Magic has the best skiing in southern Vermont; however I don’t believe that the current management has a clue on how to operate a ski area while keeping the customers best interests and the sustainability of the ski area at heart. I have heard that they’ve hired a new head of Ski School and a new Patrol director which are huge steps forward, and I’m excited to see what that brings us, both as a skier and as the coach of the frequently harassed Freeride Team.
I’m certain that not all of the people who will read this will agree with my statements or my actions; however I felt the need to put this out there.
I’m a firm believer in freedom of speech and freedom of information, and this is far from the worst thing I posted on their wall. I feel that if someone is openly criticizing your business, rather than censoring them and trying to cover it up, a business should meet that opportunity head on by responding with all of the great things that they are planning for the season. Even a bullshit response along the lines of “Don’t fret, we have the funds to take care of everything” would have been better than trying to cover something up. Given everything that has gone on this summer, I believe that more information and more transparency would benefit the ownership. I know that Magic isn’t a big mountain with a social media team, but PLEASE take cues from other, more successful mountains in the area (like Killington).
I was totally willing to give this Shane kid a chance, since he appears to understand how to use a spell checker, but our new “Director of Sales and Marketing” has definitely started out on the wrong foot with me, and I’m not one to easily forgive or forget, and anyone who has been in the lodge knows that I’m not one to be silenced either.
I still believe that Magic has the best skiing in southern Vermont; however I don’t believe that the current management has a clue on how to operate a ski area while keeping the customers best interests and the sustainability of the ski area at heart. I have heard that they’ve hired a new head of Ski School and a new Patrol director which are huge steps forward, and I’m excited to see what that brings us, both as a skier and as the coach of the frequently harassed Freeride Team.
I’m certain that not all of the people who will read this will agree with my statements or my actions; however I felt the need to put this out there.
Tin
Active member
I was wondering why they were bought as well. Seems like a waste but who knows...
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They edited their original post
Yesterday at 11:12am
Yesterday our 2 new Polaris Rangers arrived on the mountain to help our Operations Crew get around. These machines will be hard at work until the snow flies getting ready for snow.
53 minutes ago
Yesterday our 2 new Polaris Rangers arrived on the mountain to help our Operations Crew get around. These machines will be hard at work until the snow flies and then we'll put tracks on them to help get our snow guns up the mountain.
Yesterday at 11:12am
Yesterday our 2 new Polaris Rangers arrived on the mountain to help our Operations Crew get around. These machines will be hard at work until the snow flies getting ready for snow.
53 minutes ago
Yesterday our 2 new Polaris Rangers arrived on the mountain to help our Operations Crew get around. These machines will be hard at work until the snow flies and then we'll put tracks on them to help get our snow guns up the mountain.
Smellytele
Well-known member
Does the mountain harass the Freeride Team? Not questioning your statement just trying to get more info on it.
PearlJam09
New member
Former patrol director did. Happy to see him gone.
wtcobb
New member
The FB post did say they'll put tracks on the ATVs and use them to bring snow guns up the mountain... they can be 4-season vehicles.
EDIT: Just saw the post edit as mentioned.
EDIT: Just saw the post edit as mentioned.
Newpylong
Well-known member
Not that I am a regular but I also was puzzled when I saw the purchase. Did Mountain Ops have a lot of trouble getting around the hill last year? If you have a good mechanic snowmobiles are cheap...
$25K is a new 600 gpm water pump...
$25K is a new 600 gpm water pump...
slatham
Well-known member
I wondered the same and was going to ask a similar question. Thier edit of the post and the fact that these machines can be used during winter makes more sense. But - fair warning I am going into arm chair ski area owner mode - were these higher priority than say 8 portable hdk high effieciency guns? Or pipe repairs? Etc? And I assume the money for the lifts is put aside?
But what I really hope is that there is some money available (somehow) to buy these machines and do many of the other needed improvements. The most recent post of "lodge repairs" is good news, as is the teaser of more good news to come. Just wish I knew more of what was going on.
Finally, I find it very disappointing that they would cut someone off from FB due to that post. It was a legitimate question.
But what I really hope is that there is some money available (somehow) to buy these machines and do many of the other needed improvements. The most recent post of "lodge repairs" is good news, as is the teaser of more good news to come. Just wish I knew more of what was going on.
Finally, I find it very disappointing that they would cut someone off from FB due to that post. It was a legitimate question.
marcski
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Platty's MGT would most definitely never buy 2 NEW machines like that. They scour the market and find used deals on practically everything and fix things in house. It is a much better business model for smaller ski areas.
drjeff
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There is a Polaris dealer on route 100 in South Londonderry not too far South of the route 11 junction. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a bit of local courtesy on a deal on their new ATV's.
I'm guessing also the the ops folks at Magic will find those much more reliable and also fuel efficient than using a cat to move multiple pieces of snowmaking eqipment around, do some plowing, bring equipment such as chain saws, welding equipment or torches for snowmaking uses up and down the mountain as well.
Lastly, maybe it is a bit of an aggressive move on the part of the new ownership, but maybe that is also a good sign that the status quo that got them in trouble, won't be continued moving forward?? Time will tell......
I'm guessing also the the ops folks at Magic will find those much more reliable and also fuel efficient than using a cat to move multiple pieces of snowmaking eqipment around, do some plowing, bring equipment such as chain saws, welding equipment or torches for snowmaking uses up and down the mountain as well.
Lastly, maybe it is a bit of an aggressive move on the part of the new ownership, but maybe that is also a good sign that the status quo that got them in trouble, won't be continued moving forward?? Time will tell......
PearlJam09
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There is no new ownership. The deal fell through.
drjeff
Well-known member
My bad, I hadn't kept up with the last 10 pages or so of this thread, and was in correct in making the assumption that what not too long ago seemed like it was going to be a done deal, happened.
Let's hope then that the existing crew can learn from past "mistakes" and take Magic in a new, positive direction that finds a great balance between the the core vibe that has brought the mountain a highly passionate core following, and also some needed growth to allow for financial stability and some needed upgrades to draw new customers to what it truly a gem of a mountain!
ScottySkis
Well-known member
They need Lazzoo as assistance in management of little funds mountain management.
My gut says the "investors" are throwing money in as a consolation prize since the deal fell through. I honestly don't care who is "donating" the money at this point, but just hope one of them in the bunch has the brains to use it wisely!
Sorcerer
Member
I don't think it is the investors or the Nelson's.I think it's McLaughlin but I don't know who he is (or maybe Lyrczyczar - however you spell it), . There are a lot of people working on the mountain right now (3 on the Red Chair including a lift mech from a company in CO and a lift inspector, 3 painting the deck, 5 on the Black Chair and a few others around) so someone is putting in money.
Well, from my years at Magic, I know there a a few people out there with mega bucks who may want a nice mountain for their kiddies to ski on who sat back and said enough with the drama and the tight budget. Keep it comin!!!
