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deadheadskier

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Last week must have hurt them badly. I thought base depths on Lynx were great the prior weekend. Upper Polecat needed some reinforcements though. They did have a 48 hour window this weekend.

I wonder what the maximum amount of guns they can run at once is.

I'm heading up tomorrow despite the limited terrain.
 

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Last week must have hurt them badly. I thought base depths on Lynx were great the prior weekend. Upper Polecat needed some reinforcements though. They did have a 48 hour window this weekend.

I wonder what the maximum amount of guns they can run at once is.

I'm heading up tomorrow despite the limited terrain.

Their capacity is a great question. Short answer is just enough to completely light up Lynx and open in 48 hours. Last weekend they were probably blowing every gun on upper Lynx, and every second or third on middle and lower. But they also had the entire base area and Snowcat lit up.


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And after doing pictures from Killington I think they made the right call reinforcing existing terrain. Their coverage was much better than anywhere else I saw.


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I get it. I'm just a little greedy. Upper Catapult connecting to Lynx isn't very long or wide. What, 1/2 mile worth of trail? I would have thought the window they had this weekend would have been enough to do both base building on Lynx and Polecat, plus that little bit of Catapult. Maybe the capacity isn't there. Or maybe it's a budget issue. Oh well.

I probably should shut my mouth though and be thankful for what they're doing. Imagine what things would have been like had they had the snowmaking equipment they had three years ago!! They'd be closed still without a doubt!
 

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I'm just thinking about Wildcat vs. Sunday River. This is not even remotely a fair snowmaking fight however....

WC has only one general route down vs 33 trails at SR? They aren't that far apart and WC has a major elevation advantage and they can't even get two routes down set up? Damn.
 

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Ya but Wildcat is not a resort. Sunday river is a resort and out that snow making infustecure up many many years ago.

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I'm just thinking about Wildcat vs. Sunday River. This is not even remotely a fair snowmaking fight however....

WC has only one general route down vs 33 trails at SR? They aren't that far apart and WC has a major elevation advantage and they can't even get two routes down set up? Damn.

Ok, a real comparison is to snow making giant Killington. They basically have only 3 top to bottom runs open tomorrow and their report says some walking may be required(doesn't say where). Wildcat has 1, that they have it kept open for longer than any TTB at Killington, with a bigger vert. drop.

Yes SR has less vert than either K or WC, but they have at least 7-8 TTB options off of 5 separate lifts. They are the real winner so far this year.

And by the way, if WC had had tried to blow snow on upper catapult, it would have been gone long before Sat. or Sun. when most skiers would be back on the mountain. With rain and snow eating fog tonight and 50+ temps tomorrow, saving what is already open was a wise choice.
 

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Just got an email from Pico. They don't expect to be open for the first few days after Xmas by the sounds of it. They are offering to honor Pico passes at Killington starting on 12/24 until they can get Pico open. They have been offering a 50% discount the last two weeks or so. As a Pico pass guy I appreciate both gestures and can't blame them for the current situation in anyway. However, I can't imagine what K will be like the weekend after the holiday with the crowds, limited terrain, and the miserable weather. They made a good push this weekend to make snow but with what is coming down the road it will be ugly. It will get better though, it has to!

"We love Pico Mountain because it’s a slice of skiing the way it used to be – narrow trails, beautiful glades, friendly faces and warm fireplaces. During this warm, record-setting autumn, snowmaking has been a continuing challenge, and the lack of a sustained cold window has prevented us from opening on time.

While we know there is no substitute for Pico, we want our family of skiers and riders to enjoy next-door-neighbor Killington until the weather shifts. From December 24, 2015, until Pico Mountain opens, My Pico and Vermont Student Season Passes are valid at Killington Resort. Additionally, anyone who purchased date-specific tickets from our E-Ticket Store, Liftopia or through a Ski & Stay Package may use those tickets, on the valid dates, at Killington. Other pre-purchased tickets can be upgraded by paying the difference between the ticket value and the Killington ticket price. This offer is only valid until Pico Mountain opens for the season, so enjoy it now, and thanks for your understanding."


Pico is close to getting a route on the lower mountain open. It's covered from the top of the Golden Express down to the base of the Summit Quad. It's covered (but losing snow) from the base of the mountain halfway to the Summit Quad. There's only a small section in the middle that hasn't seen any snowmaking. Hope they can hold on to what they have. They did make a good effort over the weekend to open but just didn't have enough time or fire power.
 

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Imagine what things would have been like had they had the snowmaking equipment they had three years ago!! They'd be closed still without a doubt!

Well at least they wouldn't have to worry about the frozen lines issue this year....
 

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Ok, a real comparison is to snow making giant Killington. They basically have only 3 top to bottom runs open tomorrow and their report says some walking may be required(doesn't say where). Wildcat has 1, that they have it kept open for longer than any TTB at Killington, with a bigger vert. drop.

Yes SR has less vert than either K or WC, but they have at least 7-8 TTB options off of 5 separate lifts. They are the real winner so far this year.

And by the way, if WC had had tried to blow snow on upper catapult, it would have been gone long before Sat. or Sun. when most skiers would be back on the mountain. With rain and snow eating fog tonight and 50+ temps tomorrow, saving what is already open was a wise choice.

At this point, Sunday River has more vertical open than Killington. Top of Jordan to South Ridge is at least 2000, K only has what, about 1600 without cat walk hike at top to snowshed quad? WC might have more firepower if they saw, oh I don't know, maybe like 200K more skier visits a year?
 

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Ok, a real comparison is to snow making giant Killington. They basically have only 3 top to bottom runs open tomorrow and their report says some walking may be required(doesn't say where). Wildcat has 1, that they have it kept open for longer than any TTB at Killington, with a bigger vert. drop.

Yes SR has less vert than either K or WC, but they have at least 7-8 TTB options off of 5 separate lifts. They are the real winner so far this year.

And by the way, if WC had had tried to blow snow on upper catapult, it would have been gone long before Sat. or Sun. when most skiers would be back on the mountain. With rain and snow eating fog tonight and 50+ temps tomorrow, saving what is already open was a wise choice.

With this weather/conditions, there are no winners....I am amazed we are able to ski the terrain we have. If we had to pick a winner, I would say Sugarloaf may be the winner, they have 6 major routes down with some legitimate sustained vertical in Gondi Line & Skidder. In addition they have been able to open up the beginner terrain all the way down thru the Birches. It will be an interesting vacation week on the limited terrain and the sucky two days of weather we have coming. We need some cold & we need that storm to come to fruition.

Watch out for the joeys & ski safe. Ski what you can & enjoy the limited offerings...things will change soon. I hope to have some good reports from Sugarloaf next week.
 

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So is there anywhere within 5 hours of NYC that will be worth the trip to ski this Fri-Sun?
I am thinking the answer is likely no.
 

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Ok, a real comparison is to snow making giant Killington. They basically have only 3 top to bottom runs open tomorrow and their report says some walking may be required(doesn't say where).

Having skied there yesterday I'd say you'll have to walk over to Skyelark at the peak with the traverse over being washed out today, rest of the trail was in good shape. Wouldn't be surprised if they lose upper Rime, brown spots were growing yesterday. At the bottom where upper East Fall & lower Rime merge there was also a growing brown spot. The entrance to middle Great Northern from Rime only had a thin skiable strip yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if that's gone today. You'll have to walk to the Superstar chair. Those are the problem spots as I recall. Everything open off the Snowdon quad/poma was in good shape & shouldn't have any problems including lower Chute & lower Bunny Buster. Ramshead is scheduled to open Fri., from the looks of it there was plenty of snow on Caper with the whales not groomed out yet.
 

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Having skied there yesterday I'd say you'll have to walk over to Skyelark at the peak with the traverse over being washed out today, rest of the trail was in good shape. Wouldn't be surprised if they lose upper Rime, brown spots were growing yesterday. At the bottom where upper East Fall & lower Rime merge there was also a growing brown spot. The entrance to middle Great Northern from Rime only had a thin skiable strip yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if that's gone today. You'll have to walk to the Superstar chair. Those are the problem spots as I recall. Everything open off the Snowdon quad/poma was in good shape & shouldn't have any problems including lower Chute & lower Bunny Buster. Ramshead is scheduled to open tomorrow, from the looks of it there was plenty of snow on Caper with the whales not groomed out yet.

Ya, no thank you! And I can only see 1 T2B run with everything else in pods off SS Lift, Snowdon Lift, and NR Lift. They have struggled to get past what they have.
 

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Ya, no thank you! And I can only see 1 T2B run with everything else in pods off SS Lift, Snowdon Lift, and NR Lift. They have struggled to get past what they have.

Had a great 3 days there this week (Mon.-Wed.). Happy I was able to get it while the getting was good. Everyone is struggling, not just K. There are more ski areas closed in New England then there are open. As I said Ramshead will open Fri. so they are trying to expand
 

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Anyone have first hand knowledge of how Okemo is doing. On paper they seem the most open of places in VT and NYS.
 

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Looks like Sunapee decided today to suspend operations until 12/29. This morning when I checked they only had Upper and Lower Blastoff open for skiing. They also still had a screen ad saying they were still going to still have a white Christmas. I guess 60 degrees changed that. Can't blame them. They certainly gave it a good try this season so far.
 
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