Lift tickets

[highpeaksdrifter]

I hate the new lift tickets most ski areas use now. Little pieces of very thin cardboard with little holes for the ultra thin plastic loop that goes through. Then you have to save the stub so when they rip off you can replace it.

It would be simple to transfer the ticket to someone else, just snip and put in a new plastic loop. I don’t get why ski areas like them.

Give me the glue-backed tickets over wire wickets any day.

Are you with me, yea or nay?

 

[mattchuck2]

Well, I kind of like the new tickets except when they try to scan the stupid things EVERY TIME I COME DOWN THE MOUNTAIN! YOU JUST SAW ME, IDIOT! I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ONE OVER ON YOU! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!

Okay, that being said, I have a season's pass anyway, so I don't care, but I always hated putting on those stupid sticky back things and trying to line it up perfect because of my minor OCD.

 

[thetrailboss]

Agree. Last season we had folks offering to GIVE US their lift tickets as we were approaching the mountain. We were passholders, so it was not an issue. In hindsight, maybe it was a sting operation.

 

[roark]

The new tix can open some data mining possibilities and better track the flow of traffic on the mountain (except for the scanning seriously impeding the flow on the mountain!)

 

[andyzee]

I like the ones they had in Utah, I believe it was Solitude. The tickets had data programed into them. You just put them in your pocket and when you went to the lift, they had a gate where a sensor would detect your ticket and open up to let you through. I guess it was like EZPass for skiing.

 

[lloyd braun]

I like the ones they had in Utah, I believe it was Solitude. The tickets had data programed into them. You just put them in your pocket and when you went to the lift, they had a gate where a sensor would detect your ticket and open up to let you through. I guess it was like EZPass for skiing.

That is what we Kinda have. Our passes (passes only) have a chip inside and when you get close to the auto turnstyle the light turns green and lets you pass......it works well. Best part is you can leave you pass in a pocket and it still works. With the pass in the pocket you don't have it flopping around on your person.

 

[riverc0il]

my man, HPD, i am with you on this one! most annoying are how these wide slabs of paper flap and whip around in the breeze. hate that. they are too long and too big, the old sticker style lift tickets are very compact and tend to stay put, especially if you put them on just right. most areas using these style tickets are also scanning tickets which annoys me to no end, especially when empty chairs are going up because scanning is taking too long. also a pain in the ass trying to position yourself so that the dude can scan your ticket without running them over.

i never thought about how easy it would be to transfer tickets. that would be theft of services and i would not partake in such an activity; however, it seems like it would be really easy and i am surprised the big corp ski areas have bought into a system that makes it easy for their potential customers to cheat them.

in the end, with exception of burke, i don't ski at areas that use these tickets, so i have not been overly concerned with the issue since it really doesn't effect me much.

 

[ALLSKIING]

also a pain in the ass trying to position yourself so that the dude can scan your ticket without running them over.

This is SO true...I really hate the new tickets!!

 

[andyzee]

That is what we Kinda have. Our passes (passes only) have a chip inside and when you get close to the auto turnstyle the light turns green and lets you pass......it works well. Best part is you can leave you pass in a pocket and it still works. With the pass in the pocket you don't have it flopping around on your person.

No, that's exactly what they had in Utah, perhaps I just worded it wrong. Thing was great.

 

[thetrailboss]

in the end, with exception of burke, i don't ski at areas that use these tickets, so i have not been overly concerned with the issue since it really doesn't effect me much.

A partial list of ski areas that DO use the new style tickets include:

All ASC resorts
Burke (as mentioned)
Stowe
Sugarbush
Stratton


Interesting pattern is that the larger resorts (for the most part) are using this new ticket...

 

[Greg]

Add Loon, Sundown and Jiminy to that list. Hunter too, I believe.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Catamount does as well. A better list would be who does not use them...I figured all of new england has changed over.

 

[thetrailboss]

At last check, Loon had the conventional tickets.

Here are the ones who still use adhesive ones that I know of:

Loon
Pat's Peak
Cannon
Sunapee
Wachusett
MRG
Jay
Dartmouth
Middlebury
Bolton

 

[Greg]

At last check, Loon had the conventional tickets.

My bad. I think you're right. Mohawk had adhesives last season.

 

[Greg]

i never thought about how easy it would be to transfer tickets. that would be theft of services and i would not partake in such an activity; however, it seems like it would be really easy and i am surprised the big corp ski areas have bought into a system that makes it easy for their potential customers to cheat them.

Is this truly "theft of services"? That's a stretch. The lift ticket purchase entitles you to ski the mountain all day. If you quit at noon and hand the lift ticket to someone, it's just their ass on the chair versus yours, no? Now I'm not advocating handing out your lift ticket in the parking lot to a stranger as that's a lift ticket sale the mountain won't make. However, I've given my lift ticket to my wife to ski a couple of hours in the afternoon when we're on vacation (she'll watch the kids while I'm skiing in the morning) and I thought nothing of it. Should I be on the lookout for the morality police for that one? :-o

 

[thetrailboss]

Is this truly "theft of services"? That's a stretch. The lift ticket purchase entitles you to ski the mountain all day. If you quit at noon and hand the lift ticket to someone, it's just their ass on the chair versus yours, no? Now I'm not advocating handing out your lift ticket in the parking lot to a stranger as that's a lift ticket sale the mountain won't make. However, I've given my lift ticket to my wife to ski a couple of hours in the afternoon when we're on vacation (she'll watch the kids while I'm skiing in the morning) and I thought nothing of it. Should I be on the lookout for the morality police for that one? :-o

Let's not go here again after the :flame: debate on SkiMRV. :roll:

 

[AMAC2233]

Add Flatten Woods to the new ticket list....

 

[bvibert]

Is this truly "theft of services"? That's a stretch. The lift ticket purchase entitles you to ski the mountain all day. If you quit at noon and hand the lift ticket to someone, it's just their ass on the chair versus yours, no? Now I'm not advocating handing out your lift ticket in the parking lot to a stranger as that's a lift ticket sale the mountain won't make. However, I've given my lift ticket to my wife to ski a couple of hours in the afternoon when we're on vacation (she'll watch the kids while I'm skiing in the morning) and I thought nothing of it. Should I be on the lookout for the morality police for that one? :-o

I believe the back of the ticket states that it's non-transferable, which would mean that only one person can use it.

 

[lloyd braun]

most ski areas that print the ticket at time of purchase include the name of the person who bought it. My guess would be if you get caught with a ticket that was sold twice, and it gets as far as the police, the persons name that is on the ticket would be suspect as well, wouldn't you think?

would you call that a deterent?

 

[Marc]

That is what we Kinda have. Our passes (passes only) have a chip inside and when you get close to the auto turnstyle the light turns green and lets you pass......it works well. Best part is you can leave you pass in a pocket and it still works. With the pass in the pocket you don't have it flopping around on your person.

Right. RFID. What I've been wishing for out here for a while. EZPass is similar, Andy, except the transmitters for that have a battery in them so the range and signal is stronger for the physical layout of tollboothes and the speed with which cars pass.

The tags without batteries are cool because they send back their particular signal with power induced in the chip from the query signal sent by the permanent hardware at the gates.