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VAIL SUCKS

Kingslug20

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The top of the runs..yes..they are rocky..steep..bumped up...
So is castle rock..its 100% open...Stowe used to be known for their steep runs...
 

Kingslug20

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I was looking at the trail report which shows them all closed..but if they are open...then its a good thing...
 

xlr8r

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So it looks like Attitash spent a week building out a park on Moonbeam. But they aren't running the Kachina triple to serve it. Looks like upper Kachina is closed as well, so how is one supposed to get to it
 

cdskier

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Stowe..over a foot this week..over 100 inches...80% open...no front 4 top runs open.
Sugarbush...less snow..100% open
Vail...you suck.....bet a lot of Stowe people switch to SB next season...

Is this really a Vail thing though? I remember even years ago Stowe being more conservative with opening trails than SB. SB patrol is very lenient with opening trails on thin cover (and I've always been thankful for that). Has been this way for a while. I really don't think this particular example is going to move the needle much for people jumping ship from Stowe to go to SB instead though.
 

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Is this really a Vail thing though? I remember even years ago Stowe being more conservative with opening trails than SB. SB patrol is very lenient with opening trails on thin cover (and I've always been thankful for that). Has been this way for a while. I really don't think this particular example is going to move the needle much for people jumping ship from Stowe to go to SB instead though.
Stowe was never as aggressive in opening trails as SB. But I used to see tons of people skiing closed trails at Stowe and patrol look the other way. That latter part has changed under Vail, I'm told.
 

Kingslug20

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I get that the tops of the front 4 are pretty hairy..maybe they just want to protect people who think they can jump in...its hard to see what your getting into..
 

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I would be happy if people switch from Stowe to SB. Less people works for me. IMO Stowe is a better mountain then SB on many levels. @ Stowe you have vertical all the way down to the lift, Not the case @ SB The backcountry/ side country however you want to name it is better. When there is a rain event Stowe has the capacity to refresh the mountain in a more efficient manor then SB does. They make better snow, more of it and they groom better then SB does. Lift systems are quicker, and it’s nice to get to the top of the mountain on one lift. I would agree that SB has an advantage with pod lifts when it is windy and can spread people out a bit better then Stowe can. SB has always been more aggressive in opening trails then Stowe. SB has had plenty of issues this year. North Ridge chair not open even though it’s the main chair over at Ellen, Last weekend two chairs not working for most of the weekend @ Ellen. Not making enough snow this season due to broken pipe and water issues.
I am not a fan of Vail but some of these complaints in this thread are getting ridiculous. I hope Kingslug is right that a significant amount of people move to SB, for me I would rather be @ Stowe over an entire season then SB. So let the migration begin…….
 

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Ragged is hosting sunapee for a race today. Rode up with a sunapee race dad. Said the race parents at sunapee are "disgusted" and planning a "mass exodus" next year.

Sunapee is supposed to be the well run of the four.
 
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