Cut off?

[uphillklimber]

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[56fish]

Like Bob, I ride defensively. When I do get cut-off and, no contact is made - I let it go. Don't have the time. I do realize that's a bit selfish - not attempting to point out somewhat reckless behavior - maybe educating the offender. But, from my experience - most of the offenders are "never at fault".:-?

 

[Skier75]

Like Bob, I ride defensively. When I do get cut-off and, no contact is made - I let it go. Don't have the time. I do realize that's a bit selfish - not attempting to point out somewhat reckless behavior - maybe educating the offender. But, from my experience - most of the offenders are "never at fault".:-?

There's the rub. most of the offenders are "never at fault". That seems to always be the problem. I always like to make things better. Many folks have no clue as to what they just did. Don't want to start a pissing match while having fun on the mountain, but being a parent, it's kinda ingrained to try to point out what is happening. I just like how this one ended up, both of us with smiles on our face, and lesson learned.

 

[Skier75]

That previous post was uphillklimber. Skier 75 logged on when I wasn't looking!!!!

 

[walkerd2]

2 years ago, my friend was threatened and almost hit because someone cut directly in front of him and stopped for no apparent reason, causing them to tumble down the slope. I think the worst thing people do on the trails, (and I see it all the time) is to fall or stop and wait and just sit there in the middle of the trail, with no apparent regard to the risk they are putting themselves in and the other riders/skiers. I've noticed it tends to be beginners that do this, but it seems like people that should know better do the same thing.

 

[Grassi21]

Just last week I was cut off. I was standing half way down a mogul run waiting to drop in. This little rat no higher than my waste skis across my tips and off into the mogul field. The kid had to see me since he skied across my skis. He didn't look back or say sorry as he zoomed by. Normally I try to watch my language around kids. But this time I had no problem blurting out a few choice words.

 

[AdironRider]

This is a sport based on speed over a slippery slope, people are going to get cut off or hit each other. You dont like it, try something else.

 

[dmc]

This is a sport based on speed over a slippery slope, people are going to get cut off or hit each other. You dont like it, try something else.

- it's true...

 

[dmc]

I do like your analogy of speed on a slippery slope, but if you can't control yourself, that does not give you license to run over people. I say to you, if you can't control yourself, try something else.

If everyone's doing what they're supposed to do - I can avoid just about anything...

But it's when someone does something stupid where the contact comes in...

 

[snoseek]

almost everyone skis out of control sometimes. proof... the last time you fell (c'mon everyone does it once in a while) how in control were you? i've never hit anyone but it can always happen, I guess by attempting to ski in control, there is much less chance.

 

[AdironRider]

Seriously, we have all fallen while we were on the slopes before. Weve all gone out of control at some point due to ice, etc. Its part of the sport. Honestly if your just going to get pissed everytime someone cuts your off, or accidentally hits you (cause lets be honest here, noone intentionally hits you) your not cut out for this type of sport. Maybe shuffleboard, definately something less dangerous. I dont understand why people complain about getting cut off or hit, what seems like every day on this board. I dont understand why skiing/riding has this assumption that nothing bad will ever happen. When you play football you understand that injuries or accidents are part of the game, while snow sports dont have this same assumption. Doesnt make sense to me.

 

[AdironRider]

A Rider, you are kidding, aren't you? I see all kinds of signs posted. Impress me, show that you can control your self. Part of the skiier's responsibilty code is to be able to control yourself and stop.

I do like your analogy of speed on a slippery slope, but if you can't control yourself, that does not give you license to run over people. I say to you, if you can't control yourself, try something else.

That being said, one should approach skiing/riding with the assumption that sometimes, something's gonna happen. Reckless lack of control and lack of consideration that there are others on the slopes is just plain irresponsible.

No Im not kidding, see my above post.

 

[dmc]

I dont understand why people complain about getting cut off or hit, what seems like every day on this board. I dont understand why skiing/riding has this assumption that nothing bad will ever happen.

I could tell you the reason - but it's going to make some people mad...

Let's wait until we can dicuss this over a brew...

 

[dmc]

I won't challenge myself on an icy black right between two expert skiiers.

I almost never have turf wars on expert trails... It's the intermediate trails where i have to adjust and buffer myself from others...

 

[AdironRider]

I could tell you the reason - but it's going to make some people mad...

Let's wait until we can dicuss this over a brew...

Think Ill have to take you up on that offer. Ill let you know when Im heading down towards Hunter, I really want to check out Hunter West.

 

[AdironRider]

How so?

IMO it has to do with the fact that blues usually have more traffic / less experienced skiers, where expert trails usually ward off most of the learners and have better / more experienced skiiers as a whole.

 

[snoseek]

different speeds, different abilities, and different turning radius are the problem. take a look at a busy intermediate or even green (great northern at killington). i think most bad accidents occur on trails like these, not when the fast advanced skier or boarder passes on the edge of the trail. I have seen lot's of folks get pissed about this.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

I also got cut-off yesterday but no contact was made mostly due to me, i just give that long stare look i would give if it happened in my car, if i was clipped however i would have choice words for the person.

 

[riverc0il]

Seriously, we have all fallen while we were on the slopes before. Weve all gone out of control at some point due to ice, etc. Its part of the sport. Honestly if your just going to get pissed everytime someone cuts your off, or accidentally hits you (cause lets be honest here, noone intentionally hits you) your not cut out for this type of sport. Maybe shuffleboard, definately something less dangerous. I dont understand why people complain about getting cut off or hit, what seems like every day on this board. I dont understand why skiing/riding has this assumption that nothing bad will ever happen. When you play football you understand that injuries or accidents are part of the game, while snow sports dont have this same assumption. Doesnt make sense to me.

c'mon. i understand your argument, but equating accepting the fact that the sport is dangerous and accidents happen to accepting reckless skiing and riding by people that would cause a lot of accidents if it wasn't for other people watching out for them doesn't make sense to me. excusing rude behavior is not acceptable. rude behavior itself is not acceptable. i am not saying accidents don't happen, but there are a lot of yahoos out there increasing the danger risk for everyone to unreasonable levels.

my solution? ski in the woods. people who can't control their skis or boards or are generally reckless tend to stay out or they meet up with a tree that teaches them a lesson.

 

[mckay]

Last time I was cut off it was not in any way the fault of the person who cut me off. I was at Bretton Woods about to go down a blue trail from which you can enter some of the black trails on the rosebrook side. They had a big mound of snow on the right side of the trail entrance to discourage people from entering there because that would set up a situation where you might run into someone heading for the black trails. The actual trail entrance was very narrow. I go to enter the trail and there are 3 snowboarders completely blocking the trail entrace while they strap in, so I go right over the big mound of snow and guess what? There is a kid, maybe 13 or 14 cutting right across the trail to get to the black diamonds while I'm heading down the front of this big mound. I managed to skid and fall just in time to miss him. Not his fault at all.

I really don't mean to harp about snowboarders, and I know they don't like having to guess how big of an arc a skier is going to make on every turn, but can't places come up with some rules regarding where it is and is not safe for boarders to sit down and strap in?