Mid fat advice

[bvibert]

I would look for something 90+, no need to go less than that if you're looking for a ski to use mostly in powder.

You're welcome to take out my Line Anthems for a few runs at Sundown if you'd like. They're 93mm under foot. They have demo bindings so getting them to fit your boots wouldn't be a problem. I think they're 178cm in length.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

mid 90's is a good place for an "east coast" pow ski for someone who likes skinny bump skis usually. You'll get pleny of use out of them...spring time slush is much more fun on a fatter ski too. I was skiing on a Fischer Watea 94 on saturday...would have been on something over 100 on Sunday and Monday if I was on the hill. Then again, my hard snow ski has an 82mm waist.

 

[deadheadskier]

I think DHS and Snoseek get what I'm looking for the best. The only thing I'm worried about with a 90+ ski is that it would sacrifice my stance and bring back bad habits, but I suppose I could survive a few runs like that now and then.

Need to check out what the demo center at K-ton has the after next dump.

I wouldn't worry too much about your stance with something in the 90's provided it doesn't have massive side cut.

Case in point, the B2 is 116-78-105, where as Snowmonsters B4's are 122/94/112. So, not too much difference in the tips and tales and your stance can only go as narrow as what they allow for as well, so that's something to think about when thinking about stance.

 

[riverc0il]

Watea 94 is a great recommendation. My current Atua 96 owns in power. Watea is shorter and just a touch less wide and without the twin which are improvements from my perspective. Certainly worth consideration along with some others. If your primary target is powder, I would recommend skipping the "mid" in the fat. You don't need a mid-fat on a powder day and a far board will eat up the tracked out crud much better as well.

 

[snoseek]

I will also mention that I'm on my second pair of 4frnt msp and they handle all terrain very well. They are 91 mm underfoot and have less sidecut than many skis out there so that may work very well for you in the bumps. To be honest they ski all conditions very well, even hardpack. They are also fairly indestructable as I'm over 200 days on them and they're still skiing great. This would probably be a tough ski to find a demo of though.

They are great in deep snow, but I still reach for the fischers on the deep days.

 

[awf170]

We are talking east coast powder it's gone in a few hours and you are than skiing hard pack or ice.

You = fail.

(thanks for that one HighwayStar)

 

[Creakyknees]

You = fail.

Fail=You ????????????????????

 

[deadheadskier]

Fail=You ????????????????????

You = Fail i.e. wrong on your assessment that east coast powder last for a few hours and goes back to hard pack and ice. That's definitely not true.

There are plenty of places in New England where you can find powder for days following a storm....mainly in the woods at the major areas, but lesser known places, right on the trails.

 

[hardline]

We are talking east coast powder it's gone in a few hours and you are than skiing hard pack or ice. I don't think Mondeo needs a powder specific ski just an all-around ski.

never a more untrue statment. even at mt snow i was able to get powder for 2 days after the storm. at stowe/mansfield i can do its for two weeks as longs as it stays cold and not two windy. hell i could find wind affected a month later. maybe south of vt but thats not the case in the north.

 

[Trekchick]

I think DHS and Snoseek get what I'm looking for the best. The only thing I'm worried about with a 90+ ski is that it would sacrifice my stance and bring back bad habits, but I suppose I could survive a few runs like that now and then.

Need to check out what the demo center at K-ton has the after next dump.

FIscher Watea 94.
My husband loves his Cronus' (88) but then he's not the most adept at skiing powder no matter what he does.

Another friend, John, ahd the Watea 94 which I helped him get this fall. Recently he used it in our huge dumps of snow and LOVED it!

Consider this for your demo list.

Also, if you get a chance to ski something in the 100+ range, do it.

I think you'll be surprised how much fun they are.

 

[riverc0il]

Watea 94 getting a lot of suggestions here. Surprised I don't see more of the Watea series out there. Or the older Maori lines for that matter such as my Atuas. Fischer has perhaps the most under rated line of mid-fats and fats from the larger players.

 

[mondeo]

Watea 94 getting a lot of suggestions here. Surprised I don't see more of the Watea series out there. Or the older Maori lines for that matter such as my Atuas. Fischer has perhaps the most under rated line of mid-fats and fats from the larger players.

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these. Anyone know of a mountain that has Fisher demos?

And assuming I do eventually get them, I'm thinking about putting Dukes or Barons on them. From what I've heard, they're plenty capable, just expensive and heavy compared to an alpine binding. That way if I decide to do some BC stuff I'll be set for skis. Would negate the benefit of the Watea's weight, though.

 

[tjf67]

Most of the high end all mountain expert skiis are in the hir 80's low 90's. I may make more sense if you demo them on a hardpack day. You know they are going to float its the edge grip you need to make sure is there.

 

[Terry]

I just bought a pair of Line Prophet 100's and can't believe how well they ski the hard pack.You can lay them right over in a hard carve and they hold. You definately should try a pair of these.

 

[tjf67]

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these. Anyone know of a mountain that has Fisher demos?

And assuming I do eventually get them, I'm thinking about putting Dukes or Barons on them. From what I've heard, they're plenty capable, just expensive and heavy compared to an alpine binding. That way if I decide to do some BC stuff I'll be set for skis. Would negate the benefit of the Watea's weight, though.

The dukes and Barons are light compard to alpine bindings. Its funny Markers integrated set up is now what the dukes look like. Its about time marker bindings needed a change for the better.

 

[mondeo]

Looking for a 80% powder / 20% powder bumps ski. Looking for soft flex and low weight for that 20%, quickness side to side I figure will be about the same for most of the skis in the category. If I can't avoid hardpack (other than traverses and the like,) I'll be on my bump skis.

Killington is big enough that the day of a 12" dump, powder can be found at close. Not concerned about hardpack.

 

[tjf67]

Looking for a 80% powder / 20% powder bumps ski. Looking for soft flex and low weight for that 20%, quickness side to side I figure will be about the same for most of the skis in the category. If I can't avoid hardpack (other than traverses and the like,) I'll be on my bump skis.

Killington is big enough that the day of a 12" dump, powder can be found at close. Not concerned about hardpack.

I have the nortica Enforces with the dukes on them. I think its light, when you compare the weight next to my ac4 they are light. They bacame my everyday ski for a few weeks and they handled the hard pack pretty well. the only problem was floppy tongue syndrome, When I go fast on hardpack if I am not setting the edge hard the front of the ski slaps up and down. Its a great ski though. I like the twin tip part. not for the parks but when you ski off into the woods to pee you can back out and not have the rear of the ski sink in. Its mid 90's under foot with an 18 turning radius. Its a turner once you get it up to speed.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these. Anyone know of a mountain that has Fisher demos?

And assuming I do eventually get them, I'm thinking about putting Dukes or Barons on them. From what I've heard, they're plenty capable, just expensive and heavy compared to an alpine binding. That way if I decide to do some BC stuff I'll be set for skis. Would negate the benefit of the Watea's weight, though.

plenty of places selling Fischer and demo-ing...but not many places in the east demo or stock the watea 94...try Peak Performance at KL...they carry Fischer, but not sure if they have the 94. The duke/baron are lighter than a typical alpine binding, heavier than an AT binding...but burlier. A watea mounted with either would make for a versatile resort/sidecountry set up. I ski on a watea 94...floats like its 94 under foot but holds on hard snow like its mid 80s.

 

[riverc0il]

I dunno about the Watea 94, but the Atua is not a light ski. So if you are looking for a light weight setup or at least a light weight ski to compensate for a heavier touring cross over binding, you might want to consider another ski. I can really whip the Atua around in powder but they are heavy when it is not powdery. Perhaps the Watea 94 backed off the weight a little bit. At the least, it does not have a turned up tail, is shorter, and 2mm narrower in the waist, so there should be a decrease in weight from the Atua. But I can not believe it would be enough to suggest the Watea 94 is light for its class. I would put that ski in the upper end of the mid-weight fat skis.

As far as demos, I never found one and bought sight unseen.

 

[mondeo]

As far as demos, I never found one and bought sight unseen.

The more I read, the more I like these skis. Supposedly lighter than the Atuas in part due to the addition of carbon I-beams. My guess is that the I-beam part of it is a gimmick, but the horizontal parts of the carbon should do their job.

Dammit, I think I'm there. I do want them before the next powder day (unfortunately, looks like I have some time.)