Mid fat advice

[riverc0il]

Ah, yes. Forgot about those I-Beams. Honestly, if I could have held out for the latest version of the ski, I would have. But for $200 used but in perfect condition, I wasn't about to wait around until I had the money. If you are looking for 80% or more powder, you'll find these babys turn beautifully regardless of weight any ways. They almost feel as light as my legends when I am skiing boot deep. They just flooooooooooooat, baby. Surfing, man. I can't get enough. I thought I liked powder but my Atua's took the romance to a whole new level.

 

[mondeo]

One last question before I pull the trigger...length. Widely spaced trees or open spaces, definately 186s, but a little concerned about tight trees. I think they're the right choice, but wondered what length you guys are on.

5'10", 215.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

The more I read, the more I like these skis. Supposedly lighter than the Atuas in part due to the addition of carbon I-beams. My guess is that the I-beam part of it is a gimmick, but the horizontal parts of the carbon should do their job.

Dammit, I think I'm there. I do want them before the next powder day (unfortunately, looks like I have some time.)

no gimmick, there really are two carbon I-beams milled into the woodcore...middle 1/3rd of the ski, under the binding area. I ski it in a 186...6'1 200lbs...only make short turns when I have to...78 would be better for tight trees but I prefer a longer ski. They are lighter than the Atua...its one of the lightest mid 90's waisted skis out there...no metal in them either.

 

[riverc0il]

My opinion is that one size down from 186 would probably be perfect. Just my opinion. The only ski longer than 180 in my quiver is my Atua at 186... but it has a twin tip that negates at least 6cm, if not more. 6'1" 220 lbs. I wouldn't be worried about tight trees specifically. The right size is the right size, regardless.

 

[riverc0il]

no gimmick, there really are two carbon I-beams milled into the woodcore...middle 1/3rd of the ski, under the binding area. I ski it in a 186...6'1 200lbs...only make short turns when I have to...78 would be better for tight trees but I prefer a longer ski. They are lighter than the Atua...its one of the lightest mid 90's waisted skis out there...no metal in them either.

Niiiice. Glad to hear that the I-Beam stuff really lowered the weight on the new Watea 94s. Almost makes me want to core shot my Atua's sooner than I might have! :lol:

 

[mondeo]

no gimmick, there really are two carbon I-beams milled into the woodcore...

Not doubting that they're there, just doubting the effectiveness of putting I beams in instead of a couple of carbon sheets. The reason for the I beam shape is that the vertical section connects the two horizontal sections, so one is in compression and the other is in tension when in bending, leading to an optimized shape for strength and stiffness. In a carbon-wood-carbon laminate, the wood should perform the same function as the vertical web of an I-beam. There is some benefit of adding the carbon through the cross-section, I'm just not sure that it's the most effective use of it. Seems like a marketing attempt to seperate the Fishers from skis that just use layers of carbon to me.

Just my $.02 as an engineer. I could be missing a unique aspect of ski construction here.

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

Not doubting that they're there, just doubting the effectiveness of putting I beams in instead of a couple of carbon sheets. The reason for the I beam shape is that the vertical section connects the two horizontal sections, so one is in compression and the other is in tension when in bending, leading to an optimized shape for strength and stiffness. In a carbon-wood-carbon laminate, the wood should perform the same function as the vertical web of an I-beam. There is some benefit of adding the carbon through the cross-section, I'm just not sure that it's the most effective use of it. Seems like a marketing attempt to seperate the Fishers from skis that just use layers of carbon to me.

Just my $.02 as an engineer. I could be missing a unique aspect of ski construction here.

milling out the section of the wood core where the i-beams are inserted reduces the overall weight where layers of carbon fiber on top and bottom of the core wouldn't. plus it looks much cooler when you have a core sample cut in half!

 

[Terry]

I just bought a pair of Line Prophet 100's and can't believe how well they ski the hard pack.You can lay them right over in a hard carve and they hold. You definately should try a pair of these.

Got into the trees with them yesterday and skied some stashes that have been untouched this year! The float was incredible! I haven't found anything these don't do well. I even ran them in the race course on Wed night and got my fastest time ever through the gates. I am in LOVE!!!! All my friends have commented on how my skiing has drastically improved since getting them.