Sundown Mogul Plan Phase 2

[powhunter]

Any inside info as to the seeding of temptor??

steveo

 

[Chris Sullivan]

We will leave upper Nor'Easter/Temptor ungroomed for a couple of days. We will make snow in that area during the coldest part of the night tonight and tomorrow and see what it looks like. If they form by skier traffic we can avoid the ugly break in period of seeded bumps.
Stinger will likely be returned to the park folks soon. maybe tonight.

 

[gmcunni]

Stinger will likely be returned to the park folks soon. maybe tonight.

have there been complaints about the bumps taking up too much of stinger?

 

[Chris Sullivan]

Not a lot of complaints. It would be a smoother transition if we did not have to deal with freshly seeded bumps during xmas week. We have some good cold snow-making nights over the next few nights. The snow we make should be pretty light. It is a good time to see if the bumps will take shape on their own.

 

[tjf67]

Sally and the bunch need to get out there make make there own bump lines. Mama sundown has to take care of the paying customers:dunce:

 

[2knees]

It's their, not there dumbass.

 

[Greg]

Not a lot of complaints. It would be a smoother transition if we did not have to deal with freshly seeded bumps during xmas week. We have some good cold snow-making nights over the next few nights. The snow we make should be pretty light. It is a good time to see if the bumps will take shape on their own.

I'm guessing that I'm probably about to speak for a few of us here. Anyway, I think the seeding process is a critical component to the good moguls that set up at Sundown. To be frank, there really just aren't enough fast turning skiers on a consistent basis to result in good bump lines. In fact, you guys tried this once on Gunny a few years back by not grooming skier's right and despite the warmth and sun, nothing really set up.

So...personally, I'm willing to suffer through the early saber tooth moguls and will certainly try to do my part to get stuff skied in. Today was a perfect example that you really don't need much. A measly 3" transformed some pretty rough "moguls" into some sick lines today.

With that said, I totally get the concern about having ugly freshly seeded bumps during Christmas week and I appreciate the willingness to try a different approach versus just flattening everything. I think by Christmas though, we can get some okay moguls going if Temptor was seeded soon. I also have to imagine you guys are shot and if Kurt needs a break, I get that too.

Anyway, just my thoughts and please don't think I'm griping. I think you all know just how thankful we are that you guys dedicate terrain to moguls for a group that is overall pretty small. Also, I might be totally off base here and some good bumps will set up naturally, so if you guys really feel that simply not grooming is the best approach, I'll support that and do what I can to help ski in something decent.

 

[Grassi21]

Sally and the bunch need to get out there make make there own bump lines. Mama sundown has to take care of the paying customers:dunce:

As simple as this sounds, get a life. Don't you have anything better to do than douche up Sundown thread?

 

[Chris Sullivan]

If they don't look as if they will form with skier traffic by late Monday, we will seed Monday night.

 

[Grassi21]

If they don't look as if they will form with skier traffic by late Monday, we will seed Monday night.

:grin: Thanks for the update.

 

[MR. evil]

Chris
are you eventually going to seed bumps on Ex?

If so, have you guys ever given any thought to seeding the Ex bumps down the middle of the trail more in line with Temptor? It would make it so that we wouldn't have to cut across heavy skier traffic to hit he Ex bumps after Temptor. It would also act as natural barrier seperating the heavy beginner traffic coming from Canyon and the terrain park.

 

[2knees]

T, think about the absolute havoc that would create. I hope you're a better architect then ski area planner. :wink:

 

[Chris Sullivan]

Yes we will get to Exhibition. I have considered the middle of Exhibition. It has pros and cons the pro are the ones you pointed out. The cons are many.

 

[MR. evil]

T, think about the absolute havoc that would create. I hope you're a better architect then ski area planner. :wink:

I am no expert here, but I don't see how it would really be any more of a mess than that area already is. As things stand most of the skier traffic coming from Canyon run skies along a fairly narrow area right along the Ex bumps. If you seed a narrow field of bumps (narrower than what is ussually done on Ex) you seperate the park side from the begginer / intermediate skiers and possibly have a larger area of trail dedicated to the beginers. If need be run a fence between the bumps and the groomed side of Ex with a small entrance some where at the top for people to get into the lower angle bumps from the groomed section. Isn't there ussually a fence seperating the terrain park from the main trail? Just move that fence over to the right on the other side of the bumps.

 

[MR. evil]

Yes we will get to Exhibition. I have considered the middle of Exhibition. It has pros and cons the pro are the ones you pointed out. The cons are many.

Just for my own interest, what are the cons. I have a fairly narrow minded view on this and can only see the Pros.

 

[MR. evil]

T, think about the absolute havoc that would create. I hope you're a better architect then ski area planner. :wink:

BTW, did you read C.S's responce? He has previously considered this, so it can't be THAT bad of an idea. Though it doesn't mean it's a good one either.

 

[jarrodski]

I think you all know just how thankful we are that you guys dedicate terrain to moguls for a group that is overall pretty small. QUOTE]


not that small....you guys happen to be the most excitable / core / willing to help ...

 

[2knees]

BTW, did you read C.S's responce? He has previously considered this, so it can't be THAT bad of an idea. Though it doesn't mean it's a good one either.

yeah, you can take that as a win i think.

see you on the hill soon?

 

[Madroch]

Did they flatten Stinger? Was planning on heading up tonight but will probably bag it if they flattened Stinger?

 

[Madroch]

Replying to myself... ski report suggests Stinger is no more. Crap. My usual love for Sundown is really being tested.

Report also notes noreaster and temptor ungroomed-- anyone there last night to report on whether any worthwhile bumps there? I'm willing to take one for the team tonight if there is ANYTHING there to work on skiing in. But if it is just scattered mounds of snowboard scrapings in between boilerplate I am out.