Burke submits act 250 application for new Lift

[thetrailboss]

Skilifts.org is confirming that Burke is getting a new HSQ:

http://www.skilifts.org/forum/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages&section=pages&id=56&record=80

 

[deadheadskier]

wonder who will end up with Ascutney's lift

 

[from_the_NEK]

Skilifts.org is confirming that Burke is getting a new HSQ:

http://www.skilifts.org/forum/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages&section=pages&id=56&record=80

Hmmm...

If the name is accurate, with "Willoughby Express" Burke now has two summit lifts with "Wiiloughby" for a name. This could get confusing. Are they going to rename the fixed grip "Willoughby" lift ("Slow Like A Fox" fits ).

And it is not a replacement lift (unless the submitter "Skier" knows something we don't know).

Will Ragged now end up with Ascutney's lift?

EDIT: Looks like "Skier" is submitter for all installations.

 

[kingdom-tele]

Hmmm...

If the name is accurate, with "Willoughby Express" Burke now has two summit lifts with "Wiiloughby" for a name. This could get confusing. Are they going to rename the fixed grip "Willoughby" lift ("Slow Like A Fox" fits ).

And it is not a replacement lift (unless the submitter "Skier" knows something we don't know).

Will Ragged now end up with Ascutney's lift?

EDIT: Looks like "Skier" is submitter for all installations.

maybe the old quad could be "sip" and the new one "chug"

 

[from_the_NEK]

:lol:

maybe the old quad could be "sip" and the new one "chug"

:lol: I like it!

 

[Masskier]

Hmmm...

If the name is accurate, with "Willoughby Express" Burke now has two summit lifts with "Wiiloughby" for a name. This could get confusing. Are they going to rename the fixed grip "Willoughby" lift ("Slow Like A Fox" fits ).

And it is not a replacement lift (unless the submitter "Skier" knows something we don't know).

Will Ragged now end up with Ascutney's lift?

EDIT: Looks like "Skier" is submitter for all installations.

No, The new HSQ hasn't been named yet. In fact they will most likely have a contest to name it.

 

[thetrailboss]

Talk about the quietest, but yet probably one of the most significant, projects this summer! This is happening. The liftline is clear, two skidders on site, and now some other things coming in. During this summer I will be up there to get some progress shots.

And in hindsight it probably makes the most sense to go new considering that Ascutney's lift just turned 11 years old, probably was not maintained as well as it could have been. As discussed, Ascutney did not have enough money to even bring it up to code and run it at max speed. I wonder if that would cause more wear on the drive since the lift was not run at max speed? The pictures I saw also seemed to show some wear on the lift. Nothing major, but still...

In some ways this might be a blessing in disguise for Burke since this is the first COMPLETELY new lift since 1978 ((both Willoughtby and Sherburne Express were retrofits) and that could mean a lot less headaches and make things easier having three Poma brand lifts for maintenance. Say what you want, but the Sherburne is a really nice lift. They did a nice job on that lift--it looks good and runs nice and smoothly. Having a new Poma HSQ running to the summit will be very nice rather than a retrofitted second-hand HSQ that might or might now work as well.

It may also help save Ascutney since having the HSQ in place might make it more marketable.

 

[thetrailboss]

May 29th Photos:

 

[thetrailboss]

May 29th Continued:

Soon to come down:

Presumably for pylons/footings:

 

[riverc0il]

TB-Good point about this being one of the quietest and least publicized HSQ installs ever. Perhaps they still have yet to ink the official deal with Poma? I can't imagine any other reason why they would want to stay quiet about this project. Any sane resort would be screaming from the rooftops (unless there is any chance that it won't be ready for the 11-12 season.

 

[from_the_NEK]

TB-Good point about this being one of the quietest and least publicized HSQ installs ever. Perhaps they still have yet to ink the official deal with Poma? I can't imagine any other reason why they would want to stay quiet about this project. Any sane resort would be screaming from the rooftops (unless there is any chance that it won't be ready for the 11-12 season.

Maybe Burke is trying to preserve their "Best Kept Secret" reputation?


But in reality they probably don't want to put out anything official until they have a finalized purchace agreement for a lift.

 

[thetrailboss]

Maybe Burke is trying to preserve their "Best Kept Secret" reputation?


But in reality they probably don't want to put out anything official until they have a finalized purchace agreement for a lift.

There has got to be something that is preventing them from saying anything more at this point. But remember that about six weeks ago there was a flurry of press attention and that Channel 7 (LSC) story. So there has been some attention.

 

[thetrailboss]

...but then again, if memory serves me right, in 2005 they were dismantling the Sherburne Double and well into that project before making any kind of media splash and even then it was very minor.

 

[Masskier]

Maybe Burke is trying to preserve their "Best Kept Secret" reputation?


But in reality they probably don't want to put out anything official until they have a finalized purchace agreement for a lift.

This is a done deal. ink is dry.

 

[thetrailboss]

This is a done deal. ink is dry.

Well, not only that, but trees are cut, work is progressing.

 

[deadheadskier]

Well.....

It's not like they can force the local papers to write about this major improvement. I imagine the ROI on a major marketing initiative during summer isn't all that great for lesser visited area like Burke. Probably best to go heavy with the press releases and media invitations in November when folks are thinking about skiing again.

I'm thinking the major payoff for this lift will be two seasons from now. If they go heavy on the Groupon or the 3 for $99 deals again and combine that with heavy marketing of the new lift in November, then I think it will pay off in skier visit numbers. Very few skiers think about skiing in the summer like members of Alpinezone do. If Burke had the 3 for 99 deal for sale right now, I'd buy it and probably be one of a dozen people who would do so before ski season. :lol:

 

[thetrailboss]

Well.....

It's not like they can force the local papers to write about this major improvement. I imagine the ROI on a major marketing initiative during summer isn't all that great for lesser visited area like Burke. Probably best to go heavy with the press releases and media invitations in November when folks are thinking about skiing again.

I'm thinking the major payoff for this lift will be two seasons from now. If they go heavy on the Groupon or the 3 for $99 deals again and combine that with heavy marketing of the new lift in November, then I think it will pay off in skier visit numbers. Very few skiers think about skiing in the summer like members of Alpinezone do. If Burke had the 3 for 99 deal for sale right now, I'd buy it and probably be one of a dozen people who would do so before ski season. :lol:

Very true. I'd hope that they see a bump in skier days because of this lift.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Well.....
It's not like they can force the local papers to write about this major improvement. I imagine the ROI on a major marketing initiative during summer isn't all that great for lesser visited area like Burke. Probably best to go heavy with the press releases and media invitations in November when folks are thinking about skiing again.

They should at least put something on their Facebook page for crying out loud .

 

[jaytrem]

Skilifts.org is confirming that Burke is getting a new HSQ:

http://www.skilifts.org/forum/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages&section=pages&id=56&record=80

Don't look at that list on skilifts.org as "confirming". Those lists change all the time based on plans, not so much announcements or signed contract. I'm the one who recently updated the Burke stuff, missed the "replacement" part (which it's obviously not). Don't know where the name came form though, that wasn't me. Another example is the Mt. Snow Sunbrook high speed. At one point somebody put it in the 2011-2012 section, but it will be at least another year before that happens.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Don't look at that list on skilifts.org as "confirming". Those lists change all the time based on plans, not so much announcements or signed contract. I'm the one who recently updated the Burke stuff, missed the "replacement" part (which it's obviously not). Don't know where the name came form though, that wasn't me. Another example is the Mt. Snow Sunbrook high speed. At one point somebody put it in the 2011-2012 section, but it will be at least another year before that happens.

Thanks for the clarification 8)